04 Camry throttle body problem, please help!!!

[newguy08]

I Need some help...

I'm working on the 04 Camry lately and here is the trouble codes tht I have from computer.
P0121B- TPS Sens A Range/Perf problem.
P0123A- TPS Sens A CKT High Input.
P2111- See Service Manual.
P2135- See Service Manual.

I know it has something to do with the throttle body. My concern is there anyway that I can do to fix this problem without changing out the throttle body assembly? Any advice is highly appreciated. Thank you all.

-B

[JSM1284]

DTC P2135 THROTTLE/PEDAL POSITION SENSOR/SWITCH "A"/"B" VOLTAGE CORRELATION

HINT: This is the purpose of the "throttle position sensor".

CIRCUIT DESCRIPTION

Except PZEV

HINT:

• This Electronic Throttle Control System (ETCS) does not use a throttle cable.
• This throttle position sensor is a non-contact type.

The throttle position sensor is mounted on the throttle body and it detects the opening angle of the throttle valve. This sensor is electronically controlled and uses Hall-effect elements, so that accurate control and reliability can be obtained. The throttle position sensor has 2 sensor elements/signal outputs: VTA1 and VTA2. VTA1 is used to detect the throttle opening angle and VTA2 is used to detect malfunctions in VTA1 Voltage applied to VTA1 and VTA2 change between 0 V and 5 V in proportion to the opening angle of the throttle valve. There are several checks that the ECM performs to confirm proper operation of the throttle position sensor and VTA1.

The ECM judges the current opening angle of the throttle valve from these signals input from terminals VTA1 and VTA2, and the ECM controls the throttle motor to make the throttle valve angle properly in response to driver inputs.

PZEV

HINT:

• This electrical throttle system is no used throttle cable.
• This is procedure of throttle position sensor.

DTC Detection Condition
The throttle position sensor is mounted on the throttle body and it has 2 sensors to detect the throttle opening angle and a malfunction of the throttle position sensor.

The voltage applied to terminals VTA and VTA2 of the ECM changes between 0 V and 5 V in proportion to the opening angle of the throttle valve. The VTA is a signal to indicate the actual throttle valve opening angle which is used for the engine control, and the VTA2 is a signal to indicate the information about the opening angle which is used for detecting a malfunction.

The ECM judges the current opening angle of the throttle valve from these signals input from terminals VTA and VTA2, and the ECM controls the throttle motor to make the throttle valve angle properly in response to the driving condition.

When a malfunction is detected, the throttle valve is locked at a certain opening angle. Also, the whole electronically controlled throttle operation is cancelled until the system returns to normal and the ignition switch is turned OFF.



HINT:

• After confirming DTCs, use the hand-held tester or the OBD II scan tool to confirm the throttle valve opening percentage and closed throttle position switch condition.
• "THROTTLE POS" is the VTA1*1/VTA*2 signal. "THROTTLE POS #2" is the VTA2 signal.

MONITOR DESCRIPTION

Monitor Strategy
Typical Enabling Conditions
Typical Malfunction Thresholds
Typical Malfunction Thresholds
Component Operating Range
The ECM uses the throttle position sensor to monitor the throttle valve opening angle.

1. There is a specific voltage difference expected between VTA1*1/VTA*2 and VTA2 for each throttle opening angle.

• • If the difference between VTA1*1/VTA*2 and VTA2 is incorrect, the ECM interprets this as a default and will set a DTC.

1. VTA1*1/VTA*2 and VTA2 each have a specific voltage operating range.

• • If VTA1*1/VTA*2 or VTA2 is out of the normal operating range, the ECM interprets this as a fault and will set a DTC.

1. VTA1*1/VTA*2 and VTA2 should never be close to the same voltage levels.

• • If VTA1*1/VTA*2 is within 0.02 V of VTA2, the ECM interprets this as a short circuit in the throttle position sensor system and will set a DTC.

FAIL SAFE

If the Electronic Throttle Control System (ETCS) has a malfunction, the ECM cuts off current to the throttle control motor. The throttle control valve returns to a predetermined opening angle (approximately 16° ) by the force of the return spring. The ECM then adjusts the engine output by controlling the fuel injection (intermittent fuel-cut) and ignition timing in accordance with the accelerator pedal opening angle to enable the vehicle to continue at a minimal speed.

If the accelerator pedal is depressed firmly and slowly, the vehicle can be driven slowly.

If a "pass" condition is detected and then the ignition switch is turned OFF, the fail-safe operation will stop and the system will return to normal condition.

Wiring Diagram
Except PZEV

Wiring Diagram
PZEV

INSPECTION PROCEDURE

HINT:

• If DTCs that are related to different systems are output simultaneously while terminal E2 is used as a ground terminal, terminal E2 may have an open circuit.
• Read freeze frame data using the hand-held tester or the OBD II scan tool. Freeze frame data records the engine conditions when a malfunction is detected. When troubleshooting, freeze frame data can help determine if the vehicle was running or stopped, if the engine was warmed up or not, if the air-fuel ratio was lean or rich, and other data from the time the malfunction occurred.

Step 1
Step 2 - 4
Step 5
Hand-held tester

Step 1
Step 2 - 4

[JSM1284]

DTC P2111 THROTTLE ACTUATOR CONTROL SYSTEM - STUCK OPEN

CIRCUIT DESCRIPTION

DTC Detection Condition
The throttle motor is operated by the ECM and it opens and closes the throttle valve using gears. The opening angle of the throttle valve is detected by the throttle position sensor, which is mounted on the throttle body. The throttle position sensor provides feedback to the ECM to control the throttle motor and set the throttle valve angle in response to driver input.

HINT: This Electronic Throttle Control System (ETCS) is no used throttle cable.

MONITOR DESCRIPTION

Monitor Strategy
Typical Enabling Conditions
Typical Malfunction Thresholds
The ECM concludes that there is a malfunction of the ETCS when the throttle valve remains at a fixed angle despite high drive current from the ECM. The ECM will turn on the MIL and a DTC is set.

FAIL SAFE

If the ETCS has a malfunction, the ECM cuts off current to the throttle control motor. The throttle control valve returns to a predetermined opening angle (approximately 16° ) by the force of the return spring. The ECM then adjusts the engine output by controlling the fuel injection (intermittent fuel-cut) and ignition timing in accordance with the accelerator pedal opening angle to enable the vehicle to continue at a minimal speed.

If the accelerator pedal is depressed firmly and slowly, the vehicle can be driven slowly.

If a "pass" condition is detected and then the ignition switch is turned OFF, the fail-safe operation will stop and the system will return to normal condition.

Wiring Diagram

Step 1
Step 3
INSPECTION PROCEDURE

HINT: Read freeze frame data using the hand-held tester or the OBD II scan tool. Freeze frame data records the engine conditions when a malfunction is detected. When troubleshooting, freeze frame data can help determine if the vehicle was running or stopped, if the engine was warmed up or not, if the air-fuel ratio was lean or rich, and other data from the time the malfunction occurred.

[JSM1284]

DTC P0123 THROTTLE/PEDAL POSITION SENSOR/SWITCH "A" CIRCUIT HIGH INPUT

HINT: This is the purpose of the "throttle position sensor".

CIRCUIT DESCRIPTION

Except PZEV

HINT:

• This Electronic Throttle Control System (ETCS) does not use a throttle cable.
• This throttle position sensor is a non-contact type.

The throttle position sensor is mounted on the throttle body and it detects the opening angle of the throttle valve. This sensor is electronically controlled and uses Hall-effect elements, so that accurate control and reliability can be obtained. The throttle position sensor has 2 sensor elements/signal outputs: VTA1 and VTA2. VTA1 is used to detect the throttle opening angle and VTA2 is used to detect malfunctions in VTA1 Voltage applied to VTA1 and VTA2 change between 0 V and 5 V in proportion to the opening angle of the throttle valve. There are several checks that the ECM performs to confirm proper operation of the throttle position sensor and VTA1.

The ECM judges the current opening angle of the throttle valve from these signals input from terminals VTA1 and VTA2, and the ECM controls the throttle motor to make the throttle valve angle properly in response to driver inputs.

PZEV

HINT:

• This electrical throttle system is no used throttle cable.
• This is procedure of throttle position sensor.

DTC Detection Condition
The throttle position sensor is mounted on the throttle body and it has 2 sensors to detect the throttle opening angle and a malfunction of the throttle position sensor.

The voltage applied to terminals VTA and VTA2 of the ECM changes between 0 V and 5 V in proportion to the opening angle of the throttle valve. The VTA is a signal to indicate the actual throttle valve opening angle which is used for the engine control, and the VTA2 is a signal to indicate the information about the opening angle which is used for detecting a malfunction.

The ECM judges the current opening angle of the throttle valve from these signals input from terminals VTA and VTA2, and the ECM controls the throttle motor to make the throttle valve angle properly in response to the driving condition.

When a malfunction is detected, the throttle valve is locked at a certain opening angle. Also, the whole electronically controlled throttle operation is cancelled until the system returns to normal and the ignition switch is turned OFF.



HINT:

• After confirming DTCs, use the hand-held tester or the OBD II scan tool to confirm the throttle valve opening percentage and closed throttle position switch condition.
• "THROTTLE POS" is the VTA1*1/VTA*2 signal. "THROTTLE POS #2" is the VTA2 signal.

MONITOR DESCRIPTION

Monitor Strategy
Typical Enabling Conditions
Typical Malfunction Thresholds
Typical Malfunction Thresholds
Component Operating Range
The ECM uses the throttle position sensor to monitor the throttle valve opening angle.

1. There is a specific voltage difference expected between VTA1*1/VTA*2 and VTA2 for each throttle opening angle.

• • If the difference between VTA1*1/VTA*2 and VTA2 is incorrect, the ECM interprets this as a default and will set a DTC.

1. VTA1*1/VTA*2 and VTA2 each have a specific voltage operating range.

• • If VTA1*1/VTA*2 or VTA2 is out of the normal operating range, the ECM interprets this as a fault and will set a DTC.

1. VTA1*1/VTA*2 and VTA2 should never be close to the same voltage levels.

• • If VTA1*1/VTA*2 is within 0.02 V of VTA2, the ECM interprets this as a short circuit in the throttle position sensor system and will set a DTC.

FAIL SAFE

If the Electronic Throttle Control System (ETCS) has a malfunction, the ECM cuts off current to the throttle control motor. The throttle control valve returns to a predetermined opening angle (approximately 16° ) by the force of the return spring. The ECM then adjusts the engine output by controlling the fuel injection (intermittent fuel-cut) and ignition timing in accordance with the accelerator pedal opening angle to enable the vehicle to continue at a minimal speed.

If the accelerator pedal is depressed firmly and slowly, the vehicle can be driven slowly.

If a "pass" condition is detected and then the ignition switch is turned OFF, the fail-safe operation will stop and the system will return to normal condition.

Wiring Diagram
Except PZEV

Wiring Diagram
PZEV

INSPECTION PROCEDURE

HINT:

• If DTCs that are related to different systems are output simultaneously while terminal E2 is used as a ground terminal, terminal E2 may have an open circuit.
• Read freeze frame data using the hand-held tester or the OBD II scan tool. Freeze frame data records the engine conditions when a malfunction is detected. When troubleshooting, freeze frame data can help determine if the vehicle was running or stopped, if the engine was warmed up or not, if the air-fuel ratio was lean or rich, and other data from the time the malfunction occurred.

Step 1
Step 2 - 4
Step 5
Hand-held tester

Step 1
Step 2 - 4
OBD II scan tool (Excluding hand-held tester)

[JSM1284]

I doubt its the ECM. Most likely needs a new Throttle body.

[newguy08]

Thank you, Sir. It looks like I need a new throttle body assembly, rite?

[JSM1284]

That would be my best assumption based on the codes and my inability to diagnose the vehicle first hand.

[newguy08]

I took the throttle body assembly off and did some cleanning then put it back. And, the Fail Safe mode is released. The car running fine for half of day before another problem created. Now, the RPM is about 1900 and can't go back to normal. I guess that I have no choice but replace the throttle body assembly which I mostly don't like..(. Any advice or idea? Thanks for your time anyway.

-B

[JSM1284]

You must have damaged the Idle air control valve during cleaning. Replace the Throttle body