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View Poll Results: Which HID temp. would you choose?
4300k 24 57.14%
5000k 18 42.86%
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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If you like the look of bluer lights, go with 5000k. If you want whiter lights, go with 4300k. 4300k is brighter, of course, but 5000k should also be pretty bright and a nice upgrade. A lot of good info on HID in this thread. This forum has come a long way in educating the members in that department. lol.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:38 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I know you werent asking me, but I have the 5000K kit and I am happy with them.
Geoff, could you take a few snapshots while you're in the driver's seat at night? I would you forever.

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A lot of good info on HID in this thread. This forum has come a long way in educating the members in that department. lol.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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4300k gives the best light out.

But when I chose my color, I wanted somewhat of an HID feel/look to my lights, so I got the 6000k. Plus, for all the whiners about glare and what not, less output = less strain on the eyes.

Plus, the output is much better than halogens so it honestly doesn't matter what you get. Just pick a color you like and run with it.
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4300k gives the best light out.

But when I chose my color, I wanted somewhat of an HID feel/look to my lights, so I got the 6000k. Plus, for all the whiners about glare and what not, less output = less strain on the eyes.

Plus, the output is much better than halogens so it honestly doesn't matter what you get. Just pick a color you like and run with it.
4300k is an HID feel/look because it IS the color of true HID. lol. I guess people forget what HID looks like and make up an image in their heads. If it is not 4300k, it is basically modified HID output. And less output does not equal less strain on the eye. Have you ever tried to read a book in very dim light compared to bright light? If not, you should try it and see which one produces the greater strain on your eyes.
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Will do, iy will have to wait until tomorrow night though.
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4300k is an HID feel/look because it IS the color of true HID. lol. I guess people forget what HID looks like and make up an image in their heads. If it is not 4300k, it is basically modified HID output. And less output does not equal less strain on the eye. Have you ever tried to read a book in very dim light compared to bright light? If not, you should try it and see which one produces the greater strain on your eyes.
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As a matter of fact, the eyes are much more sensitive to the high Kelvin temps, and why they are that much more attracting to cops. This is why the higher K HIDs actually create a more intense glare, regardless of lumens. Even though the overall output is lower, the eye is much more sensitive to it. This is the same reason that driving with 8000K HIDs for several hours will create much more fatigue than driving with 4300K HIDs.
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Hey yazovets, I did a search on the Xtreme HID kit in this forum and noticed you have the same kit. How is it as of this moment? Are you satisfied with your purchase?
Still happy, yes. I've had zero problems so far. Bulbs and ballasts still work. No flickering ever, no ignition problems. At $225 a piece, I think the quality is definitely there. And you get a separate relay harness for each side!
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4300k is an HID feel/look because it IS the color of true HID. lol. I guess people forget what HID looks like and make up an image in their heads. If it is not 4300k, it is basically modified HID output.
i'm gonna say not in all cases. i'm not disagreeing with the fact that oem hid uses 4300k but at the fact that there are several different projectors being used that the different color hues are shown. oem hid from say a mazda 3 differs from the output from a projected a4

and besides 4300k is not the look of true hid, hid is high intensity discharge including all different kelvin temperatures
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^^^ I am not sure if this is true.....this link is worth looking at

http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

I have 4300k in my GS300 since it came with them, very white. For my GX which has projectors but no HID, I bought XenonDepot 6000K phillips kt which is actually 5800K. The color is slightly blue and very very nice, and still very bright, at least double that of halogens. I would actually put in 5800K phillips bulbs in my GS however good bulbs are expensive. I think you need to go with Phillips or Osram or dont bother, as you will have bulbs that wont last long.
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i'm gonna say not in all cases. i'm not disagreeing with the fact that oem hid uses 4300k but at the fact that there are several different projectors being used that the different color hues are shown. oem hid from say a mazda 3 differs from the output from a projected a4

and besides 4300k is not the look of true hid, hid is high intensity discharge including all different kelvin temperatures
The different light colors you are seeing may be due to the light bending when the light passes through the curved fisheye projector lenses.
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i'm gonna say not in all cases. i'm not disagreeing with the fact that oem hid uses 4300k but at the fact that there are several different projectors being used that the different color hues are shown. oem hid from say a mazda 3 differs from the output from a projected a4

and besides 4300k is not the look of true hid, hid is high intensity discharge including all different kelvin temperatures
Yes, I am aware of different output from different projectors but the fact is that oem HID is 4300k color temperature. 4300k provides optimal auto lighting in any projector. That's all I was saying. But you bring up a good point because a lot of people are not aware of that. The colorful flicker is a product of the projector and not just the bulb. In fact, some might argue that the flicker resulting from a pure white bulb is better than any other flicker because white contains all the colors in the spectrum.

Edit: And when I say 4300k IS the color of true HID, I mean that it is the color temperature that has been traditionally used in automotive applications. A lot of people see a Bimmer rolling up the freeway with blue/purple/pink flickering all over the place and say "Man, I got to get some of those blue lights!". That is what attracts a lot of people to higher temperature bulbs but THE BULB IS NOT PRODUCING BLUE AND THE LIGHT ON THE ROAD IS NOT BLUE. THE BULB IS PRODUCING WHITE LIGHT. The projector makes onlookers see blue and other colors when the light is bended like rollatuner110 was saying above. I can't say this enough because a lot of people don't understand.
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