Quick HID question.. - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums


» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Camry and Solara Forum > 5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)

5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011) Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011 Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.

ToyotaNation.com is the premier Toyota Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-11-2007, 08:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
One with the force
 
geoff5093's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goffstown, NH
Posts: 4,409
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader Score: 4 reviews
View geoff5093's Photo Gallery
Quick HID question..

Hey all, because this is my first time keeping HID's for the long run, I have a few questions.

I know halogen bulbs will get dimmer as they get close to dying, now is this the same with HID's, or will they continue to emit as much light as they did new until they die?

Which brings me to my next question, when HID's do die out, is it usually the bulb or ballast that goes? When my Xtreme HID kit starts to die I was thinking of replacing it with the true Xenon Depot Philips bulbs, but only if they would work with the Xtreme HID ballasts (at least for the time being).
__________________

geoff5093 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-11-2007, 09:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
One with the force
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,453
Gameroom cash: $283730
Thanks: 8
Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts
iTrader Score: 5 reviews
View LE05's Photo Gallery
hid bulbs will also get dimmer as they age... but they certainly take a lot longer then halogens, so you won't really notice it. they do however lose output when they color shift (about 100 hours of use), but honestly hid's are so bright, it won't really impact vision anyway!

as for the bulbs vs ballast, i'm not entirely sure. if they're both OEM equipment you won't have to worry about either for a fairly long time.
__________________
2005 Camry "LE"
TL HID Retrofit | OEM Fogs | SE Bumper | SE Grill | Factory Spoiler | Kosei K1 TS 18x7.5 | BC Racing Coilovers
TRD [RSB | Strut Tower Brace | Exhaust] || Rear Drum to Disc Swap

Last edited by LE05; 12-11-2007 at 09:13 PM.
LE05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 09:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
bitch please
 
DarkMastyr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Mountain View, CA
Posts: 1,428
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 5 reviews
View DarkMastyr's Photo Gallery
Bulbs work independent of the ballasts, as long as they're the right size.

On OEM ballasts/bulbs, my bet is on bulbs failing first (which takes a long time generally, several years+).

On aftermarket ballasts/bulbs, my bet is on ballasts failing first (often within 1-2yrs).

When your lamp fails, just swap bulbs to check whether bulb or ballast is bust.
__________________

1994 Camry 2.2L LE Auto
2005 Corvette 6.0L 1SB Z51 6-sp
DarkMastyr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 10:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
Still a newbie, hehehe!!!
 
rocketace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: So Cal
Posts: 129
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View rocketace's Photo Gallery
My 1999 LS400 came with HIDs. The car was initially purchased Nov 13, 1998. Just to give you a bit of time lapse. The stock HID (4300K) is still as bright today as it was 9 years ago when I first purchased it. Strangely, my 2003 LX470 came with halogens. I replaced it with HIDs (4300K) and its been 4 years now and going strong. No dimming or less output whatsoever.

Rest easy and enjoy your HIDs... they'll last longer than you own the car, unless you are like me - the buy and hold type...In that case give yourself 10 yr span before worrying about changing out your HID bulbs.
__________________

White 2008 TCH Loaded (Nav, leather, etc)
Mods: rear lip spoiler|mesh grille|chrome door sills|rear applique|225/45/ZR18|tints|6000K HIDs|Fogs|interior LED lights
My car site
rocketace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 01:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
One with the force
 
geoff5093's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goffstown, NH
Posts: 4,409
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader Score: 4 reviews
View geoff5093's Photo Gallery
I do a lot of night driving which consists of short trips, so the lights are constantly being turned on and off, so I don't expect them to last 9 years like your OEM's, but I would like to get a few years out at least.
__________________

geoff5093 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 03:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
Joined the dark side. :D
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: earth
Posts: 3,756
Gameroom cash: $654791
Thanks: 250
Thanked 91 Times in 73 Posts
iTrader Score: 1 reviews
View workerant's Photo Gallery
I must got a cheap HID.. bulb burn out after 1 year.. got a new one and burn out in 30days and they send me a replacement that I just install last night.

When I said burn out, they don't really burn out. When the ballast start, it put out lots of power then reduce it within 2mins to convert the sodium to gas and switch to normal function which uses less power. And when switch to normal is when the defect bulb can't stay ON.
workerant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 03:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
ASE Master Technician
 
JSM1284's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Godfrey, Illinois
Posts: 2,370
Gameroom cash: $186325
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View JSM1284's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by TTM77 View Post
I must got a cheap HID.. bulb burn out after 1 year.. got a new one and burn out in 30days and they send me a replacement that I just install last night.

When I said burn out, they don't really burn out. When the ballast start, it put out lots of power then reduce it within 2mins to convert the sodium to gas and switch to normal function which uses less power. And when switch to normal is when the defect bulb can't stay ON.
Are you using Name brand (Philips,Osram?) Or just a aftermarket type.
__________________
Your source for Gen6 TSX Retro's (PM for details)
2005 Lexus ES330
2007 Camry SE V-6 Titanium(SOLD)
Moonroof, Navi, Sport Leather, Floor Mats, Phillips 4300k HID, 15% Tint, Silverstar Turn signals
“My friends call me ‘The Cane.’ Even before I messed up my leg.” ~Dr. Gregory house
JSM1284 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 09:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View NoDuff's Photo Gallery
Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketace View Post
....In that case give yourself 10 yr span before worrying about changing out your HID bulbs.
9 or 10 years? I guess I got a lemon then. I just blew a Philips bulb on my 2004 Sienna, I guess the XLE LTD came with HID.
NoDuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 09:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 82
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View xdothedew's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff5093 View Post
I do a lot of night driving which consists of short trips, so the lights are constantly being turned on and off, so I don't expect them to last 9 years like your OEM's, but I would like to get a few years out at least.
quick question.. do you keep the switch on Auto or do you turn on your lights manually?
xdothedew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 10:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
Forgive meee.
 
liquidi3ladz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SFSU
Posts: 475
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View liquidi3ladz's Photo Gallery
Omg I cringed when I hit the panic button. D:
__________________
2002 Camry LE I4
liquidi3ladz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 10:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
One with the force
 
geoff5093's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goffstown, NH
Posts: 4,409
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader Score: 4 reviews
View geoff5093's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by xdothedew View Post
quick question.. do you keep the switch on Auto or do you turn on your lights manually?
I turn them on and off manually, because I don't like the DRL's
__________________

geoff5093 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 11:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
HID/Retrofit Expert
 
white3ch0c0late's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 818
Posts: 4,305
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 7 reviews
View white3ch0c0late's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by liquidi3ladz View Post
Omg I cringed when I hit the panic button. D:
Yeah.. it happens. Sucks... but... what can you do?
__________________
2009 Audi TT 2.0T --- THE BEAST!
2002 LE 4Cyl --- Gone, but not forgotten. 06/28/09

Glaring blue HID bulbs are NOT classy, and don't make your car look nice, no matter what that kid in the Civic told you.
white3ch0c0late is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 11:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
HID/Retrofit Expert
 
white3ch0c0late's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 818
Posts: 4,305
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 7 reviews
View white3ch0c0late's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoDuff View Post
9 or 10 years? I guess I got a lemon then. I just blew a Philips bulb on my 2004 Sienna, I guess the XLE LTD came with HID.
10 years is uncommon, and really only happens when the HIDs aren't used very much. The average HID bulb lasts about 3000 hours (6-7 years of regular night driving). This amount can be decreased from frequent on-off operation, and keeping the headlamps on even during day driving.
__________________
2009 Audi TT 2.0T --- THE BEAST!
2002 LE 4Cyl --- Gone, but not forgotten. 06/28/09

Glaring blue HID bulbs are NOT classy, and don't make your car look nice, no matter what that kid in the Civic told you.
white3ch0c0late is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2007, 12:15 AM   #14 (permalink)
Here and there...
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 5,840
Gameroom cash: $153229
Thanks: 20
Thanked 38 Times in 38 Posts
Lifetime Supreme Member
iTrader Score: 6 reviews
View lammydi's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by xdothedew View Post
quick question.. do you keep the switch on Auto or do you turn on your lights manually?
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff5093 View Post
I turn them on and off manually, because I don't like the DRL's
I also turn them on/off manually because that damn DRL keep turn on my HID when I enter the garage. Then it turn on again when I first started the car inside the garage. That quick on then off is not good for HID that's why I just turn off the DRL and just use it the old fashion way.
__________________
Back on stock height and love it!

Questions about wheels/tires? Click here
lammydi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2007, 01:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
HID/Retrofit Expert
 
white3ch0c0late's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 818
Posts: 4,305
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 7 reviews
View white3ch0c0late's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by lammydi View Post
I also turn them on/off manually because that damn DRL keep turn on my HID when I enter the garage. Then it turn on again when I first started the car inside the garage. That quick on then off is not good for HID that's why I just turn off the DRL and just use it the old fashion way.
Yep. Thats why most HID-equipped vehicles with the auto function have a delay in the response. The light sensor delays like 30 seconds or so before firing up the ballasts, or turning them off.
__________________
2009 Audi TT 2.0T --- THE BEAST!
2002 LE 4Cyl --- Gone, but not forgotten. 06/28/09

Glaring blue HID bulbs are NOT classy, and don't make your car look nice, no matter what that kid in the Civic told you.
white3ch0c0late is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Camry and Solara Forum > 5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Quick Question! OneMnk 2nd Generation (2005+) 26 09-12-2006 05:42 PM
just a quick question paradizecityz 3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001) 6 08-11-2006 11:53 AM
Quick Question.... TTercel Tercel, Paseo, Starlet, and Sera Forum 1 06-16-2006 07:02 PM
Newbie HID question dubya1232000 Camry & Solara Lounge 3 06-20-2004 11:49 AM
Quick interior Question shuluke Camry & Solara Lounge 2 06-15-2004 03:15 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:23 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
ToyotaNation.com is an independent Toyota/Lexus enthusiast website. ToyotaNation.com is not sponsored by or in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. The Toyota, Lexus and Scion names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.