5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.
To the OP, what does Ca mean in your location? California, Canada, etc.
Sounds like American pricing, way to good to be Canadian.
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I'd find one without the stability control, unless you like driving like you have a 4 banger.
Now that is the dumbest thing to say.
It never slowed me down. Maybe its not the stability control that slows you down...
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I'd find one without the stability control, unless you like driving like you have a 4 banger.
Makes no sense at all.
Back on topic: I have an 07 with the same features plus remote start and paid less than that in April 2006 when they first hit the lots an noone was discounting. I bought from Fitzmall who was referenced before. Use their online pricing as a baseline for what the market is. Maybe you should buy from Fitz, and use the money you save to ship the car and get some other goodies this season.
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Now that is the dumbest thing to say.
It never slowed me down. Maybe its not the stability control that slows you down...
It doesn't slow me down since I decided not to get this option based on the dismal review the non-defeatable VSC got from MotorTrend. But you may in fact be a better driver than the reviewers at CarandDriver.
"So, the SE trim level is clearly a big deal on a model that has a reputation as America’s bestselling family runabout. But here’s the tantalizing paradox: You can’t get at the real fun. The car’s stability-and-traction-control system steps in at the slightest hint of tire scrub and slows everything down. It won’t tolerate an aggressive launch, and if you snap-shift the car into second gear and cop a tiny chirp of wheelspin, it slaps your wrist with a half-second of nothing. And it can’t be switched off."
Last edited by BoxesandLines; 12-16-2007 at 03:52 PM.
Reason: It was C/D, not MotorTrend
It doesn't slow me down since I decided not to get this option based on the dismal review the non-defeatable VSC got from MotorTrend. But you may in fact be a better driver than the reviewers at CarandDriver.
"So, the SE trim level is clearly a big deal on a model that has a reputation as America’s bestselling family runabout. But here’s the tantalizing paradox: You can’t get at the real fun. The car’s stability-and-traction-control system steps in at the slightest hint of tire scrub and slows everything down. It won’t tolerate an aggressive launch, and if you snap-shift the car into second gear and cop a tiny chirp of wheelspin, it slaps your wrist with a half-second of nothing. And it can’t be switched off."
I will agree, but only when you show me test results of two SE V6 Camrys, tested by the same driver, on the same day. Otherwise, grow up...
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I will agree, but only when you show me test results of two SE V6 Camrys, tested by the same driver, on the same day. Otherwise, grow up...
Actually, I want to see it tested in normal driving conditions on normal unclosed roads following the speed limit and other rules of the road (real world driving environment). Why...b/c 99.999% of the time in real world conditions you will not see either the VSC or TC engage and it damn sure won't be an issue for "slowing you down"
Perhaps you are a 18 year old who knows better than the rules of the road and is concerned that the VSC will keep you from being able to beat that 911 turbo in the twisties
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I agree 100%. But even in extreme driving conditions, I'd rather be slowed down a little, than slide into a ditch or crash into a tree.
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Camry SE V6 Silver | Dark Charcoal leather with heated seats | Moonroof | JBL stereo with 6-dics changer | Auto-dimmer with compass MODS: 30% tint all around |Moved SE emblem to the upper-right corner | Blue LED's on steering wheel and shifter | K&N Drop-In air filter | White LED lights inside
This car is for my mom, which we bought for $28,500 last night, the fact we could have done better I guess is a moot point now. I kept saying we could do a little better, but the difference between $28,500 and $27,800 is really just splitting hairs when you look at the big picture according to my parents.
Anyway, with all the performance stuff and what not with the VSC, it really doesnt matter all that much does it? I mean it's a Camry not a Cayman, we all get that right? If she wanted a sports sedan she'd of bought a Bimmer or Audi (which we almost did). This is NOT a sports sedan in any manner IMO. The car is just a nice semi-entry level lux sedan that is comfortable.
VSC sucks - I agree. It's is a bit intrusive on my GF's IS350 when driven hard, but even on that car, it's not unbearable. As a few have said, it's better safe than sorry - especially in a car that is NOT a track car. If this were a sports car and you got fuel cut everytime the wheels spun a bit I'd agree that it's ridiculous, but for this car, that just is not the case.
On another note, I have been less than impressed by this car to this point. They had a little fiasco at the dealer - while prepping the original car, the idiot doing it scraped the passenger side while backing up; we obviously got a different car... We got home and a few hours later, what do we notice? Condensation in the headlights! Then this afternoon, my mom is sitting in the drive way with the car on trying to load some CDs and what happens? She puhses a button and the whole car shuts down - electrical system and all - car would not start. So, my parents call the dealer (they are like 5 mins from our house), guy comes out and changes a fuse or something (I wasnt around while this happened) and tells us to make an appointment for the headlights... So overall, to this point, I'm a little disappointed - my one consolation in all of this? At least it isn't my car... haha
Last edited by 2008 Camry; 12-16-2007 at 11:40 PM.
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