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Old 01-15-2008, 04:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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VLEDS H11 bulb -?

Has anyone ever seen/use this type of H11 bulb?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VLEDS...spagenameZWDVW


Just curious...been looking for something with better light output....

any feedback would be great!

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Old 01-15-2008, 05:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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*Note bulbs are not to be used as a primary source of light.

They just have a bright glow. Emitt just as much light as a dome light.
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I have never seen this b4. However, the sentence "..... as primary source of light" worries me. It seems like it's something that has a nice white light but is not going to be good for illumination. It would be better for show.


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*Note bulbs are not to be used as a primary source of light.

They just have a bright glow. Emitt just as much light as a dome light.
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Correct. This is for looks, Not one bit of practical use
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Just stick with the conventional bulbs because they shine in all directions, unlike LEDs which do not.
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Ya dont waste ur money on this. I dont see LED lights of any kind being great for distance light output.

I had seen these which are expensive: http://www.automotivelightingusa.com...8e32a3662c7882

And they pack a pretty damn big LED but below it also says not recommended for headlights so distance light output sux. I always love how they say wattage OUTPUT 100 W and uses 1.5 W. I don't know how they measure that...
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I dont see LED lights of any kind being great for distance light output.
Then you would be wrong!

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Those are actual headlights designed to use LEDs, so there's a big difference.
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The Lexus LS600hL is the first production vehicle to use LED Headlights. And they really arent that great, After driving it at night, My HIDs put out better light. But I do like the AFS feature.
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Those are actual headlights designed to use LEDs, so there's a big difference.
Got to go back to physics: how far light traveling in air outside the LED/Bulb does not depend how the light was created (assuming same wavelengths spectrum), okay! What is different is how the light is directed/concentrated to achieve higher illumination at a certain direction and distance. LED's are by far more power efficient than traditional bulbs and in theory you can create much more light output with the same input current. The problem is you need custom optics to accommodate the different wavelength band and directionality of light created by LED vs bulbs/HID. I assume when you think the light "does not travel as far" simply means the light is much more diffuse and therefore density in forward direction as desired is much lower....well, don't want to preach, but it's really only physics.
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LED headlights are being promoted as an environmental benefit, not because of its output performance. For those who don't know, our Camry takes 55W headlights (giving a total of 110W of electricity used). Even allowing for some inefficiency in the alternator this would make a very small impact on the fuel use of our 3.5L 268hp V6, or 2.4L 158hp I4. The Audi R8 is equipped with a 4.2L FSI (Fuel Stratified Injection) producting 414hp. LED headlights will do some good for plug-in hybrid cars and all-electric vehicles where saving power is more important. Also, a range of levels of luminosity could be effectively used in headlights to increase efficiency in some situations and increase light levels in others. For example, as in parking lights and headlights. When driving just before sun-set or at night in the city where the street lights are bright, you need headlights to allow other drivers to clearly see you but you don't need them as bright as they have to be when driving at night in the country. This way of dimming the headlights can be done by turning off some of the LEDs in the bank. As of right now, it is currently impossible to create a single LED that takes more than 1W of power, so a bank of LEDs must be used.
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As of right now, it is currently impossible to create a single LED that takes more than 1W of power, so a bank of LEDs must be used.
Exactly, therefore I guess it is not easy to do the reflector optics for headlights in an affordable way - like a distributed light source. Possible, but not cheap.
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Exactly, therefore I guess it is not easy to do the reflector optics for headlights in an affordable way - like a distributed light source. Possible, but not cheap.
They can have a set of LEDs pointing in different directions and which LEDs get power would determine where the light goes.
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