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Old 01-17-2008, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My parents have a 2005 camry 2.4L 2az-fe engine. I would like my father to use Mobil 1 extended performance synthetic 5w-30 oil. Using this oil and a mobil 1 oil filter the changes can be extended to 10,000 miles. Would anybody know if this engine has a top engine sluge problem? If it does, would the use of this oil and change interval help or harm the sluge build up problem?
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Regardless of what oil you use. Dont use 10k intrevals. Dont get me wrong, the Mobil 1 will definately hold up to beyond 10k but I would not personally think about doing it at that intreval.
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agreed...
because of the oil filter life, id keep it to 5k intervals...the mobil would be good for 10k intervals but i wouldent think fo doing it...
sludge comes from poor service (extended intervals between oil changes...toyota reccomends 5k intervals due to oil filter life...they dont last forever and they are vital to your engine as they catch metal shavings and engine debris and keep them from recirculating) and (alot of the time) poor usage of the car...people who drive 50 miles a week and dont take the car above 3k are prone to sludge...running the car burns off the sludge and carbon in the engine to keep it clean and the oil circulating...

i use mobil 1 5w30 synthetic and toyota filters every 5k on my 2003 camry 2az-fe and it does perfectly fine...55k and still going strong as new
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sluge with extended oil changes

So is what you are stating is the ability and quality of the filiter to last for 10,000 miles to stop the sluge from happening to begin with.
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think you should be ok with the oil in there for that length of time, though you may consider changing out the filter around 5000 miles. Only real way to be sure is to do an oil analysis. That will tell you the condition of the oil and whether or not you can continue to use it.
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I'm a little biased here.

I think "extended oil change intervals" is about the STUPIDEST THING A CAR OWNER COULD POSSIBLY DO to a car. What else would you want to do to your car? Find some speed bumps and go over them at 80 MPH? Jump over curbs at the same speed? Pour sugar into your gas tank?

What ON EARTH is so dang freaking difficult about changing your oil often enough to make sure you don't ruin your engine? "Can't you afford an oil change for your vehicle?" Is it simply a case that you can't afford the cost of routine maintenance? For the life of me, I can't think of any other reason to allow a pile of gunky oil chew through your engine for thousands and thousands of extra miles.

Gosh, I just don't find an oil change to be all that costly at all, even if you use synthetic oil. "The cheapest insurance you could possibly buy." I drive only about 7,000 miles per year, and so I change my oil every four months, "whether it needs it or not" -- with Mobil 1 synthetic. You do the math on the mileage. All I know is that I WANT TO GET ANY GUNK OUT OF MY ENGINE.

It kind of makes me wonder if there's some correlation between "extended oil change intervals" and the folks who come in here whining about horrible, terrible problems with their cars.

At any rate, I just can't even comprehend why anyone would want to use extended change periods. "Yes, you might get sludge buildup or other 'gunk' buildup in your engine." "And that's why the rest of us change our oil more often than that." It's pretty simple....
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I'm a little biased here.

I think "extended oil change intervals" is about the STUPIDEST THING A CAR OWNER COULD POSSIBLY DO to a car. What else would you want to do to your car? Find some speed bumps and go over them at 80 MPH? Jump over curbs at the same speed? Pour sugar into your gas tank?

What ON EARTH is so dang freaking difficult about changing your oil often enough to make sure you don't ruin your engine? "Can't you afford an oil change for your vehicle?" Is it simply a case that you can't afford the cost of routine maintenance? For the life of me, I can't think of any other reason to allow a pile of gunky oil chew through your engine for thousands and thousands of extra miles.

Gosh, I just don't find an oil change to be all that costly at all, even if you use synthetic oil. "The cheapest insurance you could possibly buy." I drive only about 7,000 miles per year, and so I change my oil every four months, "whether it needs it or not" -- with Mobil 1 synthetic. You do the math on the mileage. All I know is that I WANT TO GET ANY GUNK OUT OF MY ENGINE.

It kind of makes me wonder if there's some correlation between "extended oil change intervals" and the folks who come in here whining about horrible, terrible problems with their cars.

At any rate, I just can't even comprehend why anyone would want to use extended change periods. "Yes, you might get sludge buildup or other 'gunk' buildup in your engine." "And that's why the rest of us change our oil more often than that." It's pretty simple....
+1 Agreed 100%.
But hey, you really passionate and came out a little harsh on the noobie. You probably scared and made him/her to think this forum is so mean!
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I've seen those "extended life oil changes" offered at some quick lube places. I drive over 20K miles a year, so I need an oil change every 2.5 months or so, but it's one of those routine maintenance items that can prevent sludge from forming and destroying your engine prematurely, so I have no problem paying $35 every 2.5 months for an oil change and tire rotation at the dealer.
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1500-2000 miles per change for me, and I use mobile1.
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1500-2000 miles per change for me, and I use mobile1.
There comes a point where itthe benefits of changing the oil more often is just wasteful. Are you using mobile1 synthetic?
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I'm a little biased here.

I think "extended oil change intervals" is about the STUPIDEST THING A CAR OWNER COULD POSSIBLY DO to a car. What else would you want to do to your car? Find some speed bumps and go over them at 80 MPH? Jump over curbs at the same speed? Pour sugar into your gas tank?

What ON EARTH is so dang freaking difficult about changing your oil often enough to make sure you don't ruin your engine? "Can't you afford an oil change for your vehicle?" Is it simply a case that you can't afford the cost of routine maintenance? For the life of me, I can't think of any other reason to allow a pile of gunky oil chew through your engine for thousands and thousands of extra miles.

Gosh, I just don't find an oil change to be all that costly at all, even if you use synthetic oil. "The cheapest insurance you could possibly buy." I drive only about 7,000 miles per year, and so I change my oil every four months, "whether it needs it or not" -- with Mobil 1 synthetic. You do the math on the mileage. All I know is that I WANT TO GET ANY GUNK OUT OF MY ENGINE.

It kind of makes me wonder if there's some correlation between "extended oil change intervals" and the folks who come in here whining about horrible, terrible problems with their cars.

At any rate, I just can't even comprehend why anyone would want to use extended change periods. "Yes, you might get sludge buildup or other 'gunk' buildup in your engine." "And that's why the rest of us change our oil more often than that." It's pretty simple....
I also agree.
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You should be fine with 10k OCI if you use Mobil 1 extended performance oil with the mobil extended performance oil filter. Take a look at the Las Vegas Taxi Field Test. In order not to void the 5 year Powertrain Warranty, change your oil every 5000 miles.


http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...Las_Vegas.aspx

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ive been running M1 synthetic 5w-20 for the past 3 oil changes(15k) and everything works fine.. i would stick to 5k intervals..
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i use 3k intervals no problem with more than 75k on my 05 camry
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I think "extended oil change intervals" is about the STUPIDEST THING A CAR OWNER COULD POSSIBLY DO to a car.
yes, absolutely right - but try to tell someone that who isn't a "car person". Like some pencil pusher or a woman. They all seem to be worried about wasting money b y changing the oil "too much". If you run a business with one or more vehicles, or you lease the car, this is a legitimate concern - or at least it would be to me. But on your personal car, that you want to drive for 200,000 miles +, you are better off changing the oil "too often"!

To most people who have never wrenched on a car, all they seem to understand is turning the key to "start". and these folks have no concept whatsoever of what is going on under the hood and it is all a mystery to them - and all they see are dollar signs getting paid out for oil changes week, next month or next year. and they just dont grasp the idea of being penny wise and pound foolish when it comes to keeping your engine from wearing out by changing the oil alot.

I pay about $8 or 9 for my oil changes, i buy oil filters for $2 or so on sale and oil by the case with rebate and of course, i do it myself. Jiffy lube?
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