Camry JBL Speakers (8)

[smilepak]

I think I recall seeing a discussion on this, but wasn't able to find it....

http://www.jbltoyota.com/toyota_camry/amplifier.asp

The amp has 8 channels going to 8 speakers...

Where is speaker #7 and #8? I only see 6...

Two on dash, two on front, two in rear.

or was there 4 in rear?

By the way, the 2007 Lexus ES350 (suppose to be a camry) got hell a lot better sound quality!

[CMSE07]

Originally Posted by smilepak

I think I recall seeing a discussion on this, but wasn't able to find it....

http://www.jbltoyota.com/toyota_camry/amplifier.asp

The amp has 8 channels going to 8 speakers...

Where is speaker #7 and #8? I only see 6...

Two on dash, two on front, two in rear.

or was there 4 in rear?

By the way, the 2007 Lexus ES350 (suppose to be a camry) got hell a lot better sound quality!

The rear shelf speakers are two-way speakers, subs with intregrated tweeters, thus 2 speakers in one on the rear shelf. This totals:

2 tweeters in front
2 subs in front doors
2 subs on rear shelf
2 tweeters on rear shelf

[smilepak]

dang, that suck..cheated me on real speakers ahahh

Anyone know if the JBL amps are adjustment (power adjustment) or have replaced it with something better, but kept the JBL speakers?

[Tobeit]

Subs only on the front doors? Is that right? I also heard that the JBL amps are tuned for the speakers....so, replacing the front door speakers with some high quality 2 way or even 3 way to get the tweeters close to the sub is not a viable option?

PS: I read in the manual that the Camry has only 6 speakers...not sure where you read the 8 speaker count?

[JustAnotherAsian]

Originally Posted by Tobeit

Subs only on the front doors? Is that right? I also heard that the JBL amps are tuned for the speakers....so, replacing the front door speakers with some high quality 2 way or even 3 way to get the tweeters close to the sub is not a viable option?

PS: I read in the manual that the Camry has only 6 speakers...not sure where you read the 8 speaker count?

toyota likes to say "8 speakers in 6 locations". the manual will treat a single rear 2-way speaker (technically 2 speakers) as one speaker.

[njerald]

Camry Brochure, toyota.com, Service Manual are some places you can look for the info.

[Tobeit]

Originally Posted by njerald

Camry Brochure, toyota.com, Service Manual are some places you can look for the info.

I am out of the country and can't look it up in paperwork if it even exists other than (8 speakers in 6 locations)...toyota.com does not describe how the JBL is set up either.

[njerald]

http://www.jbltoyota.com/toyota_camr...advantages.asp

[Tobeit]

Originally Posted by njerald

http://www.jbltoyota.com/toyota_camr...advantages.asp

Thanks, that is very helpful. Do you also have a link to the spec (frequency range etc) of the individual speakers to see if it makes sense to upgrade or not? Do you also know if the amp has frequency filters for each channel?

Again, that was helpful

[njerald]

Just this:

Speaker Specifications (JBL Premium Sound)
Location Speaker Type Caliber Impedance Input Rated
(1) Front Tweeter x 2 65 mm (2.6 in.) 2 W 20 W

(2) Front Midrange x 2 150 x 225mm (6.0 x 9.0 in.) 2.2 W 36 W

(3) Rear Midrange x 2 150 x 225mm (6.0 x 9.0 in.) 2.2 W 36 W
Rear Tweeter x 2 COAXIAL 6.5 W 18 W

[touringcamry]

Originally Posted by CMSE07

The rear shelf speakers are two-way speakers, subs with intregrated tweeters, thus 2 speakers in one on the rear shelf. This totals:

2 tweeters in front
2 subs in front doors
2 subs on rear shelf
2 tweeters on rear shelf

There are no subs in the car. The speakers in the doors are mids, not subs. There is a difference.

The rear speakers are coaxials so there are two drivers even though it looks like only one.

[smilepak]

The new Camry is the first Toyota to take advantage of JBL’s new Distributed Subwoofer System (DSS), which optimizes base response throughout the cabin in unique fashion, utilizing 4 unique, high performance 6 x 9 inch woofers in the front and rear of the cabin to accomplish this feat.

This is the front dashboard area

Front Mid-Range (2) 65mm mid-range metal cone speakers (left and right) are used, mounted on the left- and right-hand instrument panel shelf. A metallic compound was selected for the construction of the mid-ranges, since it is both extremely lightweight and uniform, minimizing high-frequency distortion, with sufficient size to allow operating up into mid-frequency response range when needed.

This is what it said about the front

Front Woofers (2) 6 x 9inch woofers (left and right) are used, one in each front door’s lower trim panel. These unique, high performance woofers specialize in bass output, enabling JBL’s new Distributed Subwoofer System (DSS).

and what it said about the rear

Rear Sound
(2) 6 x 9inch coaxial full-range loudspeakers with integral 25mm metal-dome tweeters mounted left- and righthand on the upper surface of the rear package shelf.
The woofer portion of these unique, high performance speakers is responsible for rear passenger cabin bass response, enabling JBL’s new Distributed Subwoofer System (DSS).

This is the amp

Amplifier (1) The 8-channel digital signal processing (DSP) amplifier, rated nominally at 55 watts/channel and 440 watts of overall power output, is mounted underneath the front passenger seat. •This amplifier first converts the incoming audio signal (CD, broadcast) into multiple channels, then delivers specific information to each of the JBL system’s loudspeakers, ensuring optimum audio imaging to each of the vehicle’s seating locations. •Each of the amplifier’s eight digital output channels delivers a varying amount of power to each of Camry’s 8 specialized loudspeakers, optimizing balance and enhancing tonal blending, regardless of the music or broadcast source.

[Tobeit]

Originally Posted by touringcamry

There are no subs in the car. The speakers in the doors are mids, not subs. There is a difference.

The rear speakers are coaxials so there are two drivers even though it looks like only one.

...yeah, njeralds link explains that quite nice (midrange speakers, "distributed subs"). What I try to find out if it makes sense to replace the front door speakers with better range mid's (I found some good 2Ohm's) and even ad a 2 way to it. But I can't find more info than what Njerald listed above. I want to know as I need to open my front doors very soon to do the tint work anyway. Replacing the speakers and adding some mat's would be easy at the same time. Any help is appreciated.

[Tobeit]

Originally Posted by smilepak

This is the front dashboard area
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This is what it said about the front
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and what it said about the rear
....


This is the amp

Yes, that is a nice general description but tells you nothing about their real spec ...how is the frequency output of the amp managed, cross overs, gain adjust etc, what is the range of the individual speakers, noise factor etc. I like my sound but if I can do a simple swap with to a high end 6x9 to make it even better I would do that.

[smilepak]

Anyone tried to swap the stock AMP with something better (fitting in the same place) or replaced their rear 6x9?