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Old 03-03-2008, 12:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Spiderwebbing/Swirls on 07/08?

Do you guys and gals that are owners of this new generation Camry SE find that your brand new paint is pretty weak and vulverable to damage? My vehicle has been hand washed by the dealer a couple of times already (she's only about a month old with 500 miles on her) plus hand washed by a local wash near me -- never by an automatic place -- and I notice in direct sunlight the horrible, dreaded spiderwebs and swirls already on the hood on her Blue Ribbon Metallic paint....is this normal for such a new vehicle?
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Did you see it with your own eyes that the local dealer did a "Hand Wash" on your job?
More than likely, they ran your car through the "automatically" car wash with brush that spinning around that very easy to caused the swirls on your paint.
I always tell the dealership "No, thanks...I will wash the car with my own hands!"
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I agree with Lammy, but let me also say that the paint on these cars suck. It seems to be very soft...or at least the clear. I have chips, swirls and scratches all over mine (same as yours...Blue Ribbon). She's in the shop getting the front end touched up as I type. I will be getting a clear bra as soon as I get her back.
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Did you see it with your own eyes that the local dealer did a "Hand Wash" on your job?
More than likely, they ran your car through the "automatically" car wash with brush that spinning around that very easy to caused the swirls on your paint.
I always tell the dealership "No, thanks...I will wash the car with my own hands!"
Shit, no, Lammy, I didn't actually SEE it...damn...that's probably what it is and now I'm pissed...

The chick that takes care of the new car delivery for the dealer I bought the vehicle at instructed the guys to hand wash it to prevent swirls, but I don't know what happened for sure because they were speaking Spanish to each other and I didn't follow the conversation...

But that's probably what happened. Because of my setup living in an apartment right now, there is absolutely NO way I can hand wash the vehicle myself, plus I'm still getting over the injuries sustained from my head on collision last year with a truck that contained a drunk driver and who totalled my 99 Accord; I needed extensive leg surgery and now there's a rod in there so it's hard for me to stand very long. At any rate, my best alternative is to bring it to this local hand wash place, where they really do hand wash, but I did start to notice the spiderwebbing and swirls; is there any way to get rid of this?
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I agree with Lammy, but let me also say that the paint on these cars suck. It seems to be very soft...or at least the clear. I have chips, swirls and scratches all over mine (same as yours...Blue Ribbon). She's in the shop getting the front end touched up as I type. I will be getting a clear bra as soon as I get her back.
Man....that's too bad....it breaks my heart when the paint chips like that...what were all those damages from?
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Shit, no, Lammy, I didn't actually SEE it...damn...that's probably what it is and now I'm pissed...

The chick that takes care of the new car delivery for the dealer I bought the vehicle at instructed the guys to hand wash it to prevent swirls, but I don't know what happened for sure because they were speaking Spanish to each other and I didn't follow the conversation...

But that's probably what happened. Because of my setup living in an apartment right now, there is absolutely NO way I can hand wash the vehicle myself, plus I'm still getting over the injuries sustained from my head on collision last year with a truck that contained a drunk driver and who totalled my 99 Accord; I needed extensive leg surgery and now there's a rod in there so it's hard for me to stand very long. At any rate, my best alternative is to bring it to this local hand wash place, where they really do hand wash, but I did start to notice the spiderwebbing and swirls; is there any way to get rid of this?
Wow, sorry you had to go through shits like that due to a drunk driver!
For the swirl, a nice wax/swirl remover would take care of it. Just go to your local autoparts like Autozone, Kragen, Pepboys...
http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars.html

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Wow, sorry you had to go through shits like that due to a drunk driver!
For the swirl, a nice wax/swirl remover would take care of it. Just go to your local autoparts like Autozone, Kragen, Pepboys...
http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars.html

Yeah, I actually explained the whole accident thing in my first introductory thread; at any rate, I really can't apply any of this stuff myself right now for reasons detailed, and so is there something I can have my local hand wash apply to get rid of them?
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My car does have some light swirls in the paint, but I'm planning on polishing it later this spring, and get a better brush which doesn't have stuff bristles.
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Yeah, I actually explained the whole accident thing in my first introductory thread; at any rate, I really can't apply any of this stuff myself right now for reasons detailed, and so is there something I can have my local hand wash apply to get rid of them?
You can do a few things here.
1. Bring your car to a local hand wash shop and ask them for a quote of "hand wax" and ask what product they use.
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2. Ask them how much for their labor if you provide the "Swirl remover" product and they just do the labor?
3. Look on yellowpage for those "mobile detaling". Those guys comes to your office and/or house to do wax jobs on your car. Again, you can ask how much they do with they provide the product or you provide the product.
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4. Ask a friend whom know how to detailing car to do it over a 12-pack of beer! (this is the best option if you have resources)
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You can do a few things here.
1. Bring your car to a local hand wash shop and ask them for a quote of "hand wax" and ask what product they use.
Or
2. Ask them how much for their labor if you provide the "Swirl remover" product and they just do the labor?
3. Look on yellowpage for those "mobile detaling". Those guys comes to your office and/or house to do wax jobs on your car. Again, you can ask how much they do with they provide the product or you provide the product.
Or
4. Ask a friend whom know how to detailing car to do it over a 12-pack of beer! (this is the best option if you have resources)
Thank you very much Lammy...
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My car does have some light swirls in the paint, but I'm planning on polishing it later this spring, and get a better brush which doesn't have stuff bristles.
I feel your pain....it's just that it's even more heartbreaking for me because my baby only has 500 something miles on her and she's like a month old...
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I feel your pain....it's just that it's even more heartbreaking for me because my baby only has 500 something miles on her and she's like a month old...
I feel your pain because my baby is 2 yrs old with 34,000 miles on her and she looks and runs like a month old.
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I found that my Blue Ribbon XLE showed swirl marks quite a bit -- I've written about that in the past, if you'd like to search for it. Even when I spent hours getting them out with the usual multi-step process, they'd be back virtually the very next time I washed the car, no matter how careful I was to avoid them.

So, "I just gave up." There just wasn't any reason to keep on working so hard to keep the finish perfect.

The bottom line is pretty simple -- dark cars show swirl marks. We'll see how it goes with the new Barcelona Red SE -- hopefully it'll be much better.

But, my advice regarding Blue Ribbon would be to "get over it, and stop worrying about it." Unless you've got the tools and the time to virtually "professionally detail" your car just about every time you wash it, I don't think you're going to beat the swirl marks....
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I feel your pain because my baby is 2 yrs old with 34,000 miles on her and she looks and runs like a month old.
Other then needing to replace the engine right?

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I found that my Blue Ribbon XLE showed swirl marks quite a bit -- I've written about that in the past, if you'd like to search for it. Even when I spent hours getting them out with the usual multi-step process, they'd be back virtually the very next time I washed the car, no matter how careful I was to avoid them.

So, "I just gave up." There just wasn't any reason to keep on working so hard to keep the finish perfect.

The bottom line is pretty simple -- dark cars show swirl marks. We'll see how it goes with the new Barcelona Red SE -- hopefully it'll be much better.

But, my advice regarding Blue Ribbon would be to "get over it, and stop worrying about it." Unless you've got the tools and the time to virtually "professionally detail" your car just about every time you wash it, I don't think you're going to beat the swirl marks....
Indeed; thank you for your suggestion and input...regarding your Barcelona Red SE, I almost bought that color, too, as I LOVE red cars, I don't think that will fare much better either, as my last car, a 1999 Honda Accord EX V6 Coupe was "San Marino Red" and it gave me HEADACHES galore trying to keep the paint good; it wasn't worth all the hassle. So, perhaps these dark colors are the culprit after all...it was just breaking my heart because my baby is only a few weeks off the lot...
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