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bartclark · 03-20-2008, 08:33 AM

I am looking for a lip spoiler for my silver 02.

Also, at 70,000kms the rear suspension sags like an 80 yr old women. I am considering lowering with Eibach's, but do not want it to hammer like a wagon in the ride department.

I would appreciate some feed back on the lowering/ride quality issue,

Thanks in advance.

TRD VVTi · 03-20-2008, 10:12 AM

I'm not looking for a spoiler. Where are you looking?

'02 LE? SE? It makes a difference when comparing ride comfort.

The ride will be firmer with Eibach springs.

There are probably hundreds of threads here that you can use for reference by simply using the search feature.

**PRINCESS PEACH** · 03-20-2008, 10:17 AM

You have approximately 43495 miles.

In my opinion, with such miles, your springs are completely fine, but your struts/shocks might be blown or deteriorating which might lead your car to sag just a tad bit. Check your struts/shocks for any oil leaks.

So if your car is sagging a bit, its most likely your struts/shocks. So changing your spring won't really help it. Yes, it'll lower it, but your struts/shocks will still be blown. So yeah, first check on your struts/shocks before you make any moves.

As for your lip spoiler.
http://www.mimousa.com/home.asp?dir=products&prod=2242

I don't know the quality or etc. I'm sure other Gen5 owners can help you out.

Good luck. And don't forget to check your shocks before you make any springbuys.

TRD VVTi · 03-20-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PrincessPeach

In my opinion, with such miles, your springs are completely fine, but your struts/shocks might be blown or deteriorating which might lead your car to sag just a tad bit. Check your struts/shocks for any oil leaks.

So if your car is sagging a bit, its most likely your struts/shocks. So changing your spring won't really help it. Yes, it'll lower it, but your struts/shocks will still be blown. So yeah, first check on your struts/shocks before you make any moves.

Good luck. And don't forget to check your shocks before you make any springbuys.

Your opinion is incorrect.

Struts/shocks (the car has struts) do not support the weight of the vehicle and are only dampers that also double as upper control arms. The SPRINGS are what support the weight of the vehicle and influence the ride height. The struts do not. If they are blown the ride height will still be the same.

**PRINCESS PEACH** · 03-20-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TRD VVTi

Your opinion is incorrect.

Struts/shocks (the car has struts) do not support the weight of the vehicle and are only dampers that also double as upper control arms. The SPRINGS are what support the weight of the vehicle and influence the ride height. The struts do not. If they are blown the ride height will still be the same.

You are definitely right when you say that springs support the weight of the vehicle.

but the thing is, my car was sagging on the right side while I had my H&R/teins on. Even another user commented on it before. When I put on my megan coilovers, the installer told me that both the rightfront and rightrear struts were blown. This explained why my car sagged slightly on the right. Yes, you are right when springs support the weight of the vehicle, but struts do matter slightly. I just came to this conclusion because I saw it myself, before I installed the megans.

This is why I recommended the OP to check his struts. I saw his mileage also, and in my limited knowledge, don't the struts deteriorate considerably at 50,000 miles?

btw, my right struts were blown because I hopped a pothole that cracked/bent my previous rims :/

TRD VVTi · 03-20-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PrincessPeach

You are definitely right when you say that springs support the weight of the vehicle.

but the thing is, my car was sagging on the right side while I had my H&R/teins on. Even another user commented on it before. When I put on my megan coilovers, the installer told me that both the rightfront and rightrear struts were blown. This explained why my car sagged slightly on the right. Yes, you are right when springs support the weight of the vehicle, but struts do matter slightly. I just came to this conclusion because I saw it myself, before I installed the megans.

btw, my right struts were blown because I hopped a pothole that cracked/bent my previous rims :/

Believe what you want but that doesn't change how it really works. You could go drill holes in your struts right now and let all the oil out and the right height would not change. That is a FACT. Maybe you bent a strut, that could affect the ride height but it's not likely.

Just because you can see something, that doesn't mean that you can explain it...

It's not a big deal. Your statement was incorrect. There is no need to drag this on.

**PRINCESS PEACH** · 03-20-2008, 10:43 AM

Do you want to fight TRD VVTI?

we'll fight at the next car meet. Bring your gloves

You're going

**PRINCESS PEACH** · 03-20-2008, 10:49 AM

Dammit TRD VVTI I hate you.

I did my research and yes, you are right.

Shocks do not affect ride height.

I give you this one, you are correct.

which leads to my other question, what are some explanations of why the OP's car is sagging?

TRD VVTi · 03-20-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PrincessPeach

Dammit TRD VVTI I hate you.

I did my research and yes, you are right.

Shocks do not affect ride height.

I give you this one, you are correct.

which leads to my other question, what are some explanations of why the OP's car is sagging?

As the OP stated, it's the springs.

JSM1284 · 03-20-2008, 11:18 AM

TRD_EarBanger · 03-20-2008, 04:05 PM

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Believe what you want but that doesn't change how it really works. You could go drill holes in your struts right now and let all the oil out and the right height would not change. That is a FACT.

I often drill holes all over my car including the struts. The reduced weight improves performance (lighter), also i remove my whip antenna for driving at speeds over 130 mph due to the air resistance

njerald · 03-20-2008, 04:18 PM

Have a ball:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...iler&category0=

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CAMRY...spagenameZWDVW

james399 · 03-21-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by njerald

Have a ball:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=camry+spoi ler&category0=

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CAMRY-02-03-04-M3-STYLE-REAR-TRUNK-LIP-SPOILER-WING_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33638QQihZ006QQite mZ160219128046QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

i have the m3 lip spoiler on mine... it looks mean, i started a thread here wonderous body kit... you can see a pict of it... very subtle... very nice... i think you can get it painted... from ebay...

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