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Originally Posted by Stangar
Since you can't fuck'in read I'll repeat my original question which concerned owners of 2009, I said 2009, V6 auto trans and whether they still have the flare or has it been fixed on the 2009?
The condition is that you should not have replied because you do not own or have experience with a 2009 V6 with an auto trans.
Go use your foul, stupid mouth somewhere in Nut Jersey.
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Well, we have a fine share of rude folks in here, but you're a bit offline, too.
The simple fact is that "no car is 100% perfect." They are complex mechanical devices, and you may or may not have a problem of some sort with virtually any car you might bring home. At some point in time, you either "take a risk" and buy one, or hide in your house for the rest of your life.
Now then, it appears that this "flare" issue isn't 100%, totally fixed. Though, there
has been a noticeable reduction in the amount of "new" reports of this "flare" issue over the 2008 and the new 2009 model years. And, the concept everyone needs to understand is that Toyota doesn't just sit there with a problem it knows how to fix, and keep on producing vehicles with that problem, waiting until the next model year change to implement a fix. If they can make their cars better, they implement any improvements
INTO THEIR CURRENT PRODUCTION RUN, as soon as they can build the change into their production runs. So, if a bunch of people with 2008 cars can say "I haven't seen any problems," then that is absolutely, totally valuable information in response to your request.
So, yes, "it's the same drivetrain" since the 2007 Camry was introduced back in March, 2006, but Toyota
HAS implemented a number of changes regarding the six-speed automatic transmission over the years -- including suppliers, production methods, and electronic systems reprogramming.
And all people like me can do is report that "we've got recently-built V6/six-speed cars, and we haven't had any problems whatsoever." And we've had a few reports of folks who have noticed a slight flare or two. Still, overall in this forum, the number of folks who have ever seen a flare can't even be ten percent of all V6 owners, and that would probably correspond to something like less than one percent of V6 owners out in the real world who have had this problem.
I bought one of the very first 2007 Camry I4's back in March, 2006, and it was entirely reliable. I did, though, take advantage of a few TSB's, which took care of that "hesitation" problem, and some ultra-low-speed brake squeaking, etc. And I had nearly two years of daily experience in this forum under my belt when I traded that for a 2008 SE V6 -- I "took the risk," because I thought it was a superb vehicle, and it has been absolutely flawless since the day I drove it off my dealer's lot.
So, that's the perspective I can give you. I still believe that any Toyota -- yes, even the Camry V6 -- will be far more reliable over far more years than any other vehicle sold in this country. My experience with other brands has only served to make me appreciate Toyota all that much more. The Hondas I have owned, for instance, have both been described as "miserable, falling-apart rattletraps" -- with interiors that have utterly fallen apart under regular usage, and the kind of rattles that you'd expect from a clapped-out, 30-year-old beat-up farm pickup truck. Heck, many years ago, I bought a half-wrecked 1977 Corolla from a friend for $200 (he rolled it into a ditch trying to avoid hitting a deer), and that thing didn't even
BEGIN to rattle as much as my new, top of the line, 2004 Honda Accord EX-L coupe.
And results from other competitors in this market segment are far worse than that. For instance, would you really prefer a car that Consumer Reports describes as having "low points" like "noise, sloppy handling, steering, braking, ride quality, seat comfort, and fit and finish," all from a manufacturer that has regularly been near the bottom of their reliabililty ratings? Don't know about you, but I'm not going to take a chance on something like that.
I still think that Toyota is miles ahead of everything else in terms of reliability and build quality. Over 35 years of car ownership, all of my experience with other brands just keeps on making me run back to Toyota. I didn't hesitate one bit when I signed the papers for my new SE V6.
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