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Changed brake pads, attempted rotors but failed...
Hey guys saybakgung and i were planning to change my rotors and pads today with oem brembo blanks and hawk pro ceramics. We were able to take the caliper off and remove the pads, but when it came to the rest of the caliper, we were unable to get the 2 bolts off that hold that second part in place. We even used an impact gun but it did not work. Did anyone else have this problem? We gave up on trying to get the bolts off and just changed the pads.
On a side note, do ceramic pads smell funky when they first are used?
you werent trying to actually tighten the bolts when you thought you were lossening were you.
I know which part you are referring, the metal piece that the calipers bolt onto. I have removed these on many cars and never had the difficulties you described, but anything is possible with car repair...assuming the bolt heads are ok, soak the outside of where they bolt in really well with WD-40 or whatever you have and let it sit overnight. Put your long wrench on it and tap the end of the wrench with a hammer. Tap the other way (to tighten) sometimes too, but keep tapping the wrench. This will at least loosen the bolts some even if they wont come all the way off yet...
Now jack up the car if you have to, use jack stands but do NOT put your body underneath it now. Use a long breaker bar or pipe on your wrench and try to take it off now.
As a last resort try heating it with a propane torch for several minutes and then try the bolts, before chiseeling them off with air chisel or something as the very last resort...
^ wd40 is a lubricant...not a penetrant go get yourself some pbblaster....I've never heard of the brake caliper bracket being stuck on that badly though...you can usually torque it off with an impact gun or a breaker bar without worrying that you may break it since the bolts are so large...
usually, people have problems with the removal of the actual brake discs after they rust to the hub if anything..
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^ wd40 is a lubricant...not a penetrant go get yourself some pbblaster....I've never heard of the brake caliper bracket being stuck on that badly though...you can usually torque it off with an impact gun or a breaker bar without worrying that you may break it since the bolts are so large...
usually, people have problems with the removal of the actual brake discs after they rust to the hub if anything..
Corey recommended me to pick up some PB Blaster. I will try that next time i have time to work on it.
Also, i dont know if im being a paranoid freak about the brake job, but how do you know if the calipers are sticking? For some reason it kinda feels like the car slows down a bit quicker when my foot is off the gas.. I also rotated the tires so could it be that more meat is giving me me drag? i searched and people said to jack the front up and spin the tires and see if one side is harder to spin than the other. Is there any other way to check with just driving?
Ok I will start and say it is not uncommon for the bolts to freeze up like that. Even with a big breaker bar you can snap them. What happens is that the threads freeze up in the holder and the sometimes the only way is to snap them and then drill them out. Sometimes if you heat them they will come out but not to often.
Now for your 2 question and that is sometimes the new pads hang up in the holder and it feels like a caliper hanging up. Did you put new clips where the pads slid in because if not they could be hanging up.
All I have to say is good luck with the holders they can be a real pain. Just take your time.
I've done hundreds of brake jobs over the decades. I've never had the brake caliper bolts refuse to come off with anything stronger than hitting the wrench a few times with a hammer, but you never know. Anyway, try soaking them with Liquid Wrench or Blaster. Make sure you clean everything up with brake cleaner before you put everything back together. You don't want any residue on the rotors. It will screw up your pads and your braking. Did you clean out the metal tracks that the pads slide on? Did you LIGHTLY grease those tracks? That's important to let the pads move freely. Did you open the bleeding screw as you pushed the caliper piston back into the caliper? Otherwise the fluid in the line may lock up your caliper. There's a check valve in the master cylinder. Good luck and let us know how you solve your problems. Hy
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ok so i tried again today. I picked up some Blaster and i soaked the bolts for a few mins.. tried it with the ratchet by hand, using a hammer to knock the ratchet, and also the impact wrench and NOTHING worked. I just about give up on doing this myself this first time. I called the local gas station who knows me to find out how much they would charge me in labor to loosen the bolts. They said 40 bucks and i was gonna head over(it was ~5pm) but he said he was swamped and to come tmrw. I work all day tmrw dammit lol. Any suggestions? Oh btw, i think the max torque my impact wrench puts out is 175ft.lbs, I have the repair manual and it says that bolt should be torqued to 76ft.lbs, so i dont get it
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go get yourself some pbblaster....I've never heard of the brake caliper bracket being stuck on that badly though...you can usually torque it off with an impact gun or a breaker bar without worrying that you may break it since the bolts are so large...
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