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Old 05-01-2008, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi! The fuse is good - any known issues before I start major surgery?

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I had this problem on another car. After looking at schematics and crawling around under the dash for a while, i took the easy way to fix it.
I used a fuse tap to tap into a hot lead at the fuse box, and ran the wire to the cigar lighter and grounded it with another wire. Of course i put a second fuse in line for safety.
your other choices are to crawl around under the dash tracing circuits or hire a pro.

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Many times the actual element is faulty. Do you have power and ground on that circuit or not? You should check that.

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I had this problem on another car. After looking at schematics and crawling around under the dash for a while, i took the easy way to fix it.
I used a fuse tap to tap into a hot lead at the fuse box, and ran the wire to the cigar lighter and grounded it with another wire. Of course i put a second fuse in line for safety.
your other choices are to crawl around under the dash tracing circuits or hire a pro.

Go, TRD.
Of course marc780 isn't smart enough to recommend checking those things. That's because he doesn't know what he's talking about and still gives out advice as if he does.

It doesn't make sense to leave a potential electrical hazard go unchecked, as marc780 suggests by abandoning that circuit and running more wires.

I can't believe that he STILL gives out advice...

I'll add this to marc780's list of stupid advice. He obviously doesn't ever learn, but by me posting this list maybe others will learn more about him.

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Originally Posted by More of marc780's technical crap
Here are some more of marc780's technical advice blunders:

1) marc 780 states that Toyota requires a specific P/S fluid and not Dexron - Toyota has recommended Dexron and Dexron II for decades. Check the online manual.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t217403.html

2) Here marc780 states that moving the TPS around until the car idles correctly is acceptable. You cite that because you do it that it's fine. Actually, you need a scan tool or voltmeter to set it within specs. Check the online manual for verification.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=217414

3) Now marc780 states that impact wrenches are just as good as torque wrenches for installing wheels and not causing any problems. Again, you cite that because you do it that it's proper. That's not true. You can search ANYWHERE for supporting facts that you are incorrect.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...20#post2041920

4) marc780 also recommends that someone with a faulty accelerator pedal sensor replace the TPS instead. That will do nothing. The accelerator pedal sensor relays it's information to the ECM. The ECM decides what exactly the driver is trying to accomplish and signals the throttle body what to do. The TPS that's integrated into the throttle body tells the ECM what position the TB is at.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t218561.html

5) Here marc780 suggests that an I4 2AZ-FE (with a timing chain) has a timing belt and cover by saying
Quote:
remove the timing belt cover and run the engine and listen for the noise. Be very carefull but put your hand or an object on the timing belt pulley to affect its operation - (use care not to get that thing tangled inthe engine!) and listen.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...36#post2023636

6) Here marc780 states that this person should replace the timing belt, waterpump, and idlers for no reason. The car comes with timing chain and the water pump is external.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=233743

7) In this thread he can't even recognize a radial pull on his OWN CAR!

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...63#post2194663

8) Here is a thread that he started because he couldn't even figure out that his power steering belt just needed to be readjusted because it stretched slightly. Belts needing to be adjusted is COMMON knowledge after a new belt is run. He can't even figure that out on his own.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t235139.html

9) Here is his contribution by adding a "TECH" article to the forum. He suggests smashing battery cable ends with hammer or smashing a penny with a hammer to make a battery cable "shim". His "TECH" write up also suggests starting a stored vehicle every two weeks and letting it idle to charge the battery...

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t220898.html

10) In this thread he recommends jamming a screwdriver into the throttle body and throttle blade. This can easily damage the throttle body itself, the throttle blade, and any coatings by scratching it.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t157470.html

11) Here marc780 couldn't even figure out why his car vibrated when the brakes were applied. He doesn't even understand that you can't see the rotor warpage with the naked eye. He also suggests that he thinks an alignment problem could cause his braking vibration. Again, this just shows he doesn't even grasp the basic principles!

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t191294.html

12) Apparently, marc780 has a learning disability because after being told over and over that the 2AZ-FE has a timing chain instead of a belt he STILL gives advice about 2AZ-FE's and timing belts or covers:

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t238748.html

13) Here is were marc780 tells someone to "solder" a PLASTIC radiator tank as the only good repair. Of course, solder doesn't adhere to plastic and would be completely worthless just like most of his advice.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t238753.html

14) marc780 strikes again! This is a thread where he tells someone to dilute coolant that comes premixed (Toyota Super Long Life). As usual, he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about but passes along inaccurate information anyways.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2244220&posted=1#post2244220

15) marc780 never gives up. Here he states that an IAC motor is basically a engine temperature regulated choke and that it has vanes in it. He also suggests to check a cold start injector on a '99 Solara.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t240257.html

16) marc780 continues to pass myth along as facts. Here he states that the Toyota Camry needs 5,000 miles to break in even after it's posted that Toyota states that's not the case at all. He also states that synthetic oils will keep an engine from breaking in, even though GM, Porsche, Mercedes, Chrysler, BMW, Ferrari, etc. use synthetic oils as factory fill.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2260641&posted=1#post2260641

17) In this thread, marc780 thinks that if the EGR valve is a bad the vehicle has to have a "bad" idle also. Of course that isn't the case, but he doesn't know what he's talking about anyway...

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t244228.html

18) Here's a thread where marc780 claims to be licensed in A/C but doesn't even understand the refridgerant he's "licensed" to handle...

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246864

19) marc780 recommends abandoning an electrical circuit instead of first checking the basics. This is because he doesn't know what he's talking about, as usual (surprise)

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2313294&posted=1#post2313294
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Hi! The fuse is good - any known issues before I start major surgery?

Thanks,

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Is the lighter element itself not working or no power at the socket for an accessory?

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Many times the actual element is faulty. Do you have power and ground on that circuit or not? You should check that.



Of course marc780 isn't smart enough to recommend checking those things. That's because he doesn't know what he's talking about and still gives out advice as if he does.

It doesn't make sense to leave a potential electrical hazard go unchecked, as marc780 suggests by abandoning that circuit and running more wires.

I can't believe that he STILL gives out advice...

I'll add this to marc780's list of stupid advice. He obviously doesn't ever learn, but by me posting this list maybe others will learn more about him.

Quote:
Originally Posted by More of marc780's technical crap
Here are some more of marc780's technical advice blunders:

1) marc 780 states that Toyota requires a specific P/S fluid and not Dexron - Toyota has recommended Dexron and Dexron II for decades. Check the online manual.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t217403.html

2) Here marc780 states that moving the TPS around until the car idles correctly is acceptable. You cite that because you do it that it's fine. Actually, you need a scan tool or voltmeter to set it within specs. Check the online manual for verification.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=217414

3) Now marc780 states that impact wrenches are just as good as torque wrenches for installing wheels and not causing any problems. Again, you cite that because you do it that it's proper. That's not true. You can search ANYWHERE for supporting facts that you are incorrect.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...20#post2041920

4) marc780 also recommends that someone with a faulty accelerator pedal sensor replace the TPS instead. That will do nothing. The accelerator pedal sensor relays it's information to the ECM. The ECM decides what exactly the driver is trying to accomplish and signals the throttle body what to do. The TPS that's integrated into the throttle body tells the ECM what position the TB is at.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t218561.html

5) Here marc780 suggests that an I4 2AZ-FE (with a timing chain) has a timing belt and cover by saying
Quote:
remove the timing belt cover and run the engine and listen for the noise. Be very carefull but put your hand or an object on the timing belt pulley to affect its operation - (use care not to get that thing tangled inthe engine!) and listen.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...36#post2023636

6) Here marc780 states that this person should replace the timing belt, waterpump, and idlers for no reason. The car comes with timing chain and the water pump is external.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=233743

7) In this thread he can't even recognize a radial pull on his OWN CAR!

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...63#post2194663

8) Here is a thread that he started because he couldn't even figure out that his power steering belt just needed to be readjusted because it stretched slightly. Belts needing to be adjusted is COMMON knowledge after a new belt is run. He can't even figure that out on his own.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t235139.html

9) Here is his contribution by adding a "TECH" article to the forum. He suggests smashing battery cable ends with hammer or smashing a penny with a hammer to make a battery cable "shim". His "TECH" write up also suggests starting a stored vehicle every two weeks and letting it idle to charge the battery...

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t220898.html

10) In this thread he recommends jamming a screwdriver into the throttle body and throttle blade. This can easily damage the throttle body itself, the throttle blade, and any coatings by scratching it.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t157470.html

11) Here marc780 couldn't even figure out why his car vibrated when the brakes were applied. He doesn't even understand that you can't see the rotor warpage with the naked eye. He also suggests that he thinks an alignment problem could cause his braking vibration. Again, this just shows he doesn't even grasp the basic principles!

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t191294.html

12) Apparently, marc780 has a learning disability because after being told over and over that the 2AZ-FE has a timing chain instead of a belt he STILL gives advice about 2AZ-FE's and timing belts or covers:

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t238748.html

13) Here is were marc780 tells someone to "solder" a PLASTIC radiator tank as the only good repair. Of course, solder doesn't adhere to plastic and would be completely worthless just like most of his advice.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t238753.html

14) marc780 strikes again! This is a thread where he tells someone to dilute coolant that comes premixed (Toyota Super Long Life). As usual, he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about but passes along inaccurate information anyways.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2244220&posted=1#post2244220

15) marc780 never gives up. Here he states that an IAC motor is basically a engine temperature regulated choke and that it has vanes in it. He also suggests to check a cold start injector on a '99 Solara.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t240257.html

16) marc780 continues to pass myth along as facts. Here he states that the Toyota Camry needs 5,000 miles to break in even after it's posted that Toyota states that's not the case at all. He also states that synthetic oils will keep an engine from breaking in, even though GM, Porsche, Mercedes, Chrysler, BMW, Ferrari, etc. use synthetic oils as factory fill.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2260641&posted=1#post2260641

17) In this thread, marc780 thinks that if the EGR valve is a bad the vehicle has to have a "bad" idle also. Of course that isn't the case, but he doesn't know what he's talking about anyway...

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t244228.html

18) Here's a thread where marc780 claims to be licensed in A/C but doesn't even understand the refridgerant he's "licensed" to handle...

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246864

19) marc780 recommends abandoning an electrical circuit instead of first checking the basics. This is because he doesn't know what he's talking about, as usual (surprise)

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2313294&posted=1#post2313294
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