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Old 05-06-2008, 08:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cold engine = MAJOR creep!

Is there a known issue where when the car is cold, if you don't have your foot on the pedal, the car moves as if the gas is being applied? In the mornings when I put the car in reverse to pull out of the garage, the car will take off unless I ride the brakes. I mean REALLY fast. Then when I stop to put it in drive, I can feel the car shake a bit and I'm guessing it's because it's putting it in drive while the RPMs are high. This is really annoying. Sorry if this has been covered before. I'm new.
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Mine does the same...I asked the dealer they said it's normal.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Didnt I just reply to your other thread about this? When the engine is cold, the car will fast idle to warm up, thus when in gear, its almost like you're giving it gas because its at a fast idle. Perfectly normal.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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When the engine is cold, the car will fast idle to warm up, thus when in gear, its almost like you're giving it gas because its at a fast idle. Perfectly normal.
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Thanks a bunch. Is it obvious I know nothing about cars? I wish there was a good cheap way to get educated.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Its called not using the search button.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Is there a known issue where when the car is cold, if you don't have your foot on the pedal, the car moves as if the gas is being applied? In the mornings when I put the car in reverse to pull out of the garage, the car will take off unless I ride the brakes. I mean REALLY fast. Then when I stop to put it in drive, I can feel the car shake a bit and I'm guessing it's because it's putting it in drive while the RPMs are high. This is really annoying. Sorry if this has been covered before. I'm new.
Well, you need to control your vehicle at all times, and that includes when you're just backing out of your garage. I've seen people just jam the car in reverse and let it leap backwards, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Putting it into reverse without your foot on the brake is simply irresponsible!

I'm not meaning to really rip you or anything, but that's really the bottom line. Maybe you could leave your foot off the brake with previous cars, but you shouldn't presume that you could safely do that with ANY car. And what the other folks are saying is right -- cars these days are CONTROLLED BY COMPUTERS -- mainly the main Electronic Control Unit (ECU). And cars these days are supposed to emit far less emissions than cars have in the past -- and by far the biggest amounts of emissions are made during the initial start-up and warm-up time. So, the ECU really revs the engine high during this period, in an attempt to warm up the engine as soon as possible, and shorten this time of high emissions output.

No problem with the car, whatsoever. Just make sure you've got your foot on the brake whenever you take a vehicle out of "Park!"
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I guess after driving a stick for over 10 years you get used to it. So much in fact that autos seem foreign. Thanks for the write-up.

All the computer talk frightens and confuses me. One day when the machines do overthrow their human overlords, will they strike at us first using automobiles?
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Ah hah, I get it now. You are comparing this car to one with a clutch. It isn't going to behave like a manual. Put your !@#$%^ foot on the brake before putting it in gear. Always. Your car is not broken and there is no mechanical problem, but it would seem there might be an operator problem if you don't know how to handle an automatic transmission. You put it in gear and it creeps forward? Of course it does. IT'S IN GEAR! Put your foot on the brake.
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What is the name of the TV show that shows how amazing some ppl really don't know how to drive? Compare that TV show with this thread.... this is really nothing...
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All the computer talk frightens and confuses me. One day when the machines do overthrow their human overlords, will they strike at us first using automobiles?
Well, we are kind of seeing some of that now. The whole "hesitation" issue with the I4/5 speed automatic and another where it won't downshift as soon as we'd like when going uphill around 30-40 MPH are examples where the "computer programming" is (or was) set a bit too far towards the "fuel efficiency" side, and thus the car doesn't (or didn't) respond the way we've been expecting. Again, what I wrote about the "agendas" programmed into these systems in the other thread has everything to do with issues like this -- since these systems have control over so many things now, they CAN affect the performance of the car to the point where it'll do more towards what the computers will tell it to do than whatever you might be telling it to do.

But, like any other "tool," we humans ought to be able to figure out what works and how to get we want out of the thing, so the more we can talk and help each other understand what's going on, the better!
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