5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
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For you guys it might seems like a dumb question, but your suggestions will be very meaningful to me.
I would like to upgrade my stock 03 camry from 15" steel wheel to 17" alloy wheel. My concern about this are reduce ride comfort and milage. Does any one know how much does the stock 15" steel wheel weight? The wheel I would like to get weights about 22.8 lb. If I do this change, am I reducing weight or actually increase the weight. If it increases the weight, can I feel the difference on less milage and worse performance?
By the way, increase 2" on the wheel means reduce 1" on the tire sidewall, will this create noticeable reduction on ride comfortness?
I don't know how heavy the steel wheels are, but if the overall 17" setup is heavier than the 15" setup, you will definitely feel a difference in performance; your car will feel slower.
You have 205/65-15 tires right now. The change to 215/50-17 isn't bad at all. You sacrifice some comfort, but it's not harsh at all.
You probably will use more fuel though. 215/50-17 tires are usually sportier meaning more rolling resistance which can contribute to increased fuel use.
The car weighs a couple tons and you are worried about 10 pounds, plus or minus? Get real here. Buy some wheels because you like them and they look good. Mileage might vary some due to the type of tire you use, but it would with a steel rim anyway, right? This is like a fat man debating whether he should eat a Big Mac or a Whopper.
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Guys, I really appreciate your suggestions. To be honest with you, the only reason I want to change to alloy wheels is for the good look, and I don't mind to loose 1 or 2 mpg. But, I do care about the performance of my car. It's a 4 cyl LE, in my opinion it's not a fast car. If 17" wheels will slow down the car, maybeI will just go for 16". I know 1" is not a big difference on visual effect, but there is a huge price difference on tires, so maybe I will just go for +1 size with 205-60-16. Does this sound like a good decision?
Guys, I really appreciate your suggestions. To be honest with you, the only reason I want to change to alloy wheels is for the good look, and I don't mind to loose 1 or 2 mpg. But, I do care about the performance of my car. It's a 4 cyl LE, in my opinion it's not a fast car. If 17" wheels will slow down the car, maybeI will just go for 16". I know 1" is not a big difference on visual effect, but there is a huge price difference on tires, so maybe I will just go for +1 size with 205-60-16. Does this sound like a good decision?
no, 17's will be fine... 19's and 20's will slow down the acceleration
One inch makes a huge difference in looks...
Stick with 17's...
23 lbs for 17's are really heavy... for comparison, my 18's weigh close to 19 lbs... if you can afford it, go for forged rims
Oh please, you mean to suggest that the difference between 23 pounds and 19 pounds is such a big deal?!
You'd be adding a total of 16 pounds to the weight of the car. That is COMPLETELY INSIGNIFICANT. That's like carrying a 20 pound standard sack of cat litter. This makes NO difference at all.
If we were talking about like 20 pounds per wheel versus 40, I understand. Who cares about 16 pounds of total weight addition, or a loss of 0.1 second to 100km/h, or a loss of 1MPG? These are all so minuscule differences that they are almost not measurable!
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Oh please, you mean to suggest that the difference between 23 pounds and 19 pounds is such a big deal?!
You'd be adding a total of 16 pounds to the weight of the car. That is COMPLETELY INSIGNIFICANT. That's like carrying a 20 pound standard sack of cat litter. This makes NO difference at all.
If we were talking about like 20 pounds per wheel versus 40, I understand. Who cares about 16 pounds of total weight addition, or a loss of 0.1 second to 100km/h, or a loss of 1MPG? These are all so minuscule differences that they are almost not measurable!
16 pounds shaved of the tires is a huge difference. You should research this a lil more.
16 pounds shaved of the tires is a huge difference. You should research this a lil more.
I could be wrong, but I read a few years ago that weight added/removed from the wheels/tires has a bigger impact than removing weight from the rest of the car because of rotational momentum. That post indicated that every pound on a wheel/tire equated to about 3 pounds when the car is in motion.
Again, this could be completely inaccurate but seemed plausible. Any physics experts that can prove/disprove this theory?
The thing is that weight of the wheels make a huge difference. It's effect is greater than the addition or removal of 20 pounds. If you have the I4, you will notice the difference whether heavier or lighter even if that difference is only 2 or 3 pounds per wheel and tire combination.
Granted bicycles are quite different, but I can feel the addition of about 130 grams when I went from regular tubes to slime tubes.
The thing is that weight of the wheels make a huge difference. It's effect is greater than the addition or removal of 20 pounds. If you have the I4, you will notice the difference whether heavier or lighter even if that difference is only 2 or 3 pounds per wheel and tire combination.
Granted bicycles are quite different, but I can feel the addition of about 130 grams when I went from regular tubes to slime tubes.
+1, the bigger impact should come because its weight added with the rotational momentum of the spinning wheels....but "slime" tubes on your bike .
16 pounds shaved of the tires is a huge difference. You should research this a lil more.
every 4 pounds shaved of the wheels is about the equivalant to 10 pounds of the total car. 4*10=40. Also, the faster you go, the weight difference is also greater. Braking is also improved. But the biggest improvement is handling. Youll noticed that turns are faster and much more "crispier".
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