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[GeorgiaHybrid]

Guys,

Any new car can be sealed, waxed or whatever when you buy them. For a re-paint or repair, depending on the body shop and the paint, curing and heat used, you should wait anywhere from a week to 30 days maximum before sealing the paint.

It should be fine to use a pure carnauba wax (no cleaner wax) within a few days of getting the car back. Synthetic sealers (Klasse, Wolfgang, DP, 4 Star, etc.) should be avoided for the period specified by the repair shop.

Check with your shop again and ask if a carnauba based wax will be OK in the first 60 days. If you don't have something on the paint, the first blast of bird crap will etch the paint. Explain to them that you know you can not seal the paint to prevent outgassing but do wish to protect the surface.

[White95Cam]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaHybrid

Guys,

Any new car can be sealed, waxed or whatever when you buy them. For a re-paint or repair, depending on the body shop and the paint, curing and heat used, you should wait anywhere from a week to 30 days maximum before sealing the paint.

It should be fine to use a pure carnauba wax (no cleaner wax) within a few days of getting the car back. Synthetic sealers (Klasse, Wolfgang, DP, 4 Star, etc.) should be avoided for the period specified by the repair shop.

Check with your shop again and ask if a carnauba based wax will be OK in the first 60 days. If you don't have something on the paint, the first blast of bird crap will etch the paint. Explain to them that you know you can not seal the paint to prevent outgassing but do wish to protect the surface.

By syn sealer I am guessing that refers to silicon based waxes. My instructions from T2F said to hand wash and after 60 days wax , sealant or glaze may be applied (no silicone based wax at all). And also, no car washes!
W95C

[Snowball3]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaHybrid

Guys,

Any new car can be sealed, waxed or whatever when you buy them. For a re-paint or repair, depending on the body shop and the paint, curing and heat used, you should wait anywhere from a week to 30 days maximum before sealing the paint.

It should be fine to use a pure carnauba wax (no cleaner wax) within a few days of getting the car back. Synthetic sealers (Klasse, Wolfgang, DP, 4 Star, etc.) should be avoided for the period specified by the repair shop.

Check with your shop again and ask if a carnauba based wax will be OK in the first 60 days. If you don't have something on the paint, the first blast of bird crap will etch the paint. Explain to them that you know you can not seal the paint to prevent outgassing but do wish to protect the surface.

a good friend of mine painted the cammy for me as well as he is painting my vw i have sitting around.

w95c, thats actually not my vw but mine is going to look something simliar. stock yellow and white instead of GM blue and white. that car is from idiana....

[Mike Gerber]

New cars can be waxed as soon as you pick them up. Their paint surfaces are baked at the factory at extremely high temperatures before the painted parts are assembled. They are completely cured. I visted a GM plant a few years ago and my friend asked what temperature and for how long do they bake the paint. We were told 280 degrees F for 4 hours. A body shop usually bakes the paint at 140 degrees F for 15 or 20 mintues. You can't bake a car that is completely assembled with flamable materials (not even mentioning the gas in the tank) at a very high temperature for a long period of time. The body shop paint will therefore continue to cure and outgas for up to 60 days, depending on the outside ambient air temperature. That's why most body shops do not recommend waxing for 30, 60 or sometimes 90 days after a repaint.

Mike

[GeorgiaHybrid]

WhiteCam,

Sealants are polymer compounds and should NEVER contain silicon. Silicon might be safe for implants but is hated around paint and body shops. Any time you see a product labeled "body shop safe" it means "no silicone".

There are several people that I respect in regards to paint that have a LOT of experience with different brands of paint. One of them is linked below and the water based "wax" is what I refered to as a "pure" carnauba. Most waxes on the market are solvent based as are the sealants.

Give him a read, do some research on the detailing forums and see what you think.

http://optimumforums.org/index.php?showtopic=510

Either way if your shop requires a wait before waxing to get your paint fixed if something should go wrong, by all means wait. Just keep it as clean as you can and enjoy your nice new paint job.

[White95Cam]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaHybrid

WhiteCam,

Sealants are polymer compounds and should NEVER contain silicon. Silicon might be safe for implants but is hated around paint and body shops. Any time you see a product labeled "body shop safe" it means "no silicone".

There are several people that I respect in regards to paint that have a LOT of experience with different brands of paint. One of them is linked below and the water based "wax" is what I refered to as a "pure" carnauba. Most waxes on the market are solvent based as are the sealants.

Give him a read, do some research on the detailing forums and see what you think.

http://optimumforums.org/index.php?showtopic=510

Either way if your shop requires a wait before waxing to get your paint fixed if something should go wrong, by all means wait. Just keep it as clean as you can and enjoy your nice new paint job.

Thank you for the link, good read. I now have the answers!
W95C