5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
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2005 Camry LE 4cyl automatic... with 60,000 miles.
I’m having trouble following the maintenance manual and some of the intervals seem exceptionally long to me. I wanted to see what people in “the know” would suggest regarding the 60000 mile maintenance interval. So far the car has had absolutely no work performed except for oil changes, air filters, wiper blades, and one set of new tires. It’s been really reliable and I want to keep it that way.
90% of the 60K miles are freeway.
Which of the following items would you recommend be performed at 60K?
Plugs replaced?
Necessary to pull/inspect plugs so they don’t seize to the head?
Plug wires?
Fuel filter?
Tranny fluid change?
Coolant flush?
Water pump?
Thermostat?
Power steering fluid flush?
Brake fluid flush?
If none of the above are recommended at 60K, *when* would you recommend replacing the coolant, thermostat, water pump, and/or some tranny fluid?
2005 Camry LE 4cyl automatic... with 60,000 miles.
I’m having trouble following the maintenance manual and some of the intervals seem exceptionally long to me. I wanted to see what people in “the know” would suggest regarding the 60000 mile maintenance interval. So far the car has had absolutely no work performed except for oil changes, air filters, wiper blades, and one set of new tires. It’s been really reliable and I want to keep it that way.
90% of the 60K miles are freeway.
Which of the following items would you recommend be performed at 60K?
Plugs replaced?
Necessary to pull/inspect plugs so they don’t seize to the head?
Plug wires?
Fuel filter?
Tranny fluid change?
Coolant flush?
Water pump?
Thermostat?
Power steering fluid flush?
Brake fluid flush?
If none of the above are recommended at 60K, *when* would you recommend replacing the coolant, thermostat, water pump, and/or some tranny fluid?
Thank you.
-Nathan
Welcome to TN. This subject has been covered numerous times. There is a sticky at the top of this forum that asks newbies to please read it. It explains the search function and how to use it. Please have the courtesy to the people who are trying to help you and read that.
You have iridium plugs that don't need to be changed until 120,000 miles. You also don't have any spark plug wires, they're just boots between the coils and the plugs. Factory installed plugs typically don't seize to the head.
The coolant goes up to 100,000 miles. It's Super Long Life and comes premixed from the Toyota dealer.
The transmission fluid should be replaced when it becomes discolored. 60,000 miles is a good time to perform a drain and fill if the fluid is still in good condition.
I would recommend that you have the throttle body cleaned at this time and every 30,000 miles. A top engine clean is a good idea also. There is a SeaFoam thread that's easy to find by using the above mentioned search function.
The waterpump and thermostat only need to be replaced if they are faulty.
You don't need to replace the fuel filter.
The brake fluid should be checked to see if it's due for replacement, the same goes for the power steering fluid. There is very little failure caused by not changing these fluids. It's not a bad idea though.
Remember to rotate your tires, check your brakes, inspect the tires for wear (for a possible alignment), check the serpentine belt, and all the other checks in the maintenance guide.
Welcome to TN. This subject has been covered numerous times. There is a sticky at the top of this forum that asks newbies to please read it. It explains the search function and how to use it. Please have the courtesy to the people who are trying to help you and read that.
Thanks for the warm welcome and the smack-down. But before posting I did use the search feature and I did read in the entire newb thread. “60000 maintenance” didn’t reveal anything relevant to gen5 Camry, and a search for “60K maintenance” only revealed one gen5 Camry result, but the thread only had 2 replies.
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You have iridium plugs that don't need to be changed until 120,000 miles. You also don't have any spark plug wires, they're just boots between the coils and the plugs. Factory installed plugs typically don't seize to the head.
The coolant goes up to 100,000 miles. It's Super Long Life and comes premixed from the Toyota dealer.
The transmission fluid should be replaced when it becomes discolored. 60,000 miles is a good time to perform a drain and fill if the fluid is still in good condition.
I would recommend that you have the throttle body cleaned at this time and every 30,000 miles. A top engine clean is a good idea also. There is a SeaFoam thread that's easy to find by using the above mentioned search function.
Cool; thanks.
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The waterpump and thermostat only need to be replaced if they are faulty.
Are you saying at 60K, or you only replace these parts when they fail? Isn't the while idea of preventive maintenance to get to this stuff before it fails? That's what I'm after... Personally, I'd rather not wait on the part to fail -- leading the car overheat, and the head to warp.
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You don't need to replace the fuel filter.
Are you saying at 60K, or you just never replace yours? I'd rather not have it clog and leave me stranded.
he's right this has never happened to anybody ever. Anti size is a total waste of $ and oly idiots use it
Last I checked antisieze was good for something, but even assuming you are right, and that it’s not, I’m pretty sure the 99 cents I spent by using it didn’t qualify me as an idiot.
i have a 2003 SE with 60k on the ODO and i recently did:
change ATF and refill with toyota genuine ATF type T-IV
check and change air filter if necessary
rotate and balence tires ( i rotate every 5k and balence every 15k)
check and change cabin air filter if needed
check and changer wiper blades/inserts if needed
check all gaskets and seals for leaks (oil pan, trans pan, valve cover gasket, rear main oil seal, etc)
change power steering fluid if needed, and check for leaks in the power steering system
check all boots (CV boots) for grease leaks
check balljoints and wheelbearings
check brake fluid and change if dirty
alignment (every 15k or as needed)
change coolant (if it uses toyota RED long life coolant like mine, which i cange every 30k, but since yours has PINK super long life, this isnt due to 100k)
change oil and filter (mobil 1 synthetic 5w-30 and toyota genuine filter)
check brakes (i replaced pads and rotors and shims all around with oem toyota parts)
check acessory drive belt for cracks and replace if needed (i did at 60k just because of age)
seafoam: helps clean your engine internally, and i do it every 20-30k
throttle body cleaning: every 15k for me....very easy, but make sure to use specific throttle body cleaner
a good engine cleaning never hurt anyone...nor did a good cleaning of the cars interior and exterior
check struts (bounce test)
spark plugs arent due to 100k since camrys use iridium plugs
this is just what i checked and did...since im a toyota tech, i go through an extensive check up routine every 30k on all cars that come through me...i also do this on my own car as well and at 60k and 5 years old she still runs like any new camry fresh off the lot.
2az-fe powered 2.4L camrys have a timing chain, so no worries about timing belts
Iridium plugs are due at 120,000 miles. Changing them at 100,000 miles is a good idea though.
Some waterpumps last nearly forever, and some leak after tens of thousands of miles. Only replace it and the thermostat if you have a problem with them.
You won't need to replace your fuel filter, probably ever. Don't worry, it won't clog.
2005 Camry
60,000 Miles - 72 Months
<< BACK - INTERVALS - NEXT >> Replace engine oil and oil filter 1 Rotate tires Replace cabin air filter (if equipped) Replace engine air filter Inspect the following: Ball joints and dust covers Brake lines and hoses Brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs 4 Differential oil Drive belts 5 Drive shaft boots Engine coolant 3 Engine valve clearance Exhaust pipes and mountings Fuel lines and connections, fuel tank band and fuel tank vapor vent system hoses Fuel tank cap gasket Radiator, condenser and/or intercooler Steering gear box Steering linkage and boots Transmission fluid or oil
Additional Maintenance Items for Special Operating Conditions:
Driving While Towing Replace front differential oil Replace transmission fluid or oil Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis Driving in Desert or On Dirt Roads Tighten nuts and bolts on chassis Applicable Footnotes:1) Reset the oil replacement reminder (“MAINT REQD”) light after replacing engine oil, if vehicle is equipped with this light.
3) See Maintenance Definitions (Engine Coolant) for details.
4) Inspect thickness measurement and disc runout.
5) Initial inspection at 60,000 miles/72 months. Inspect every 15,000 miles/18 months thereafter. http://smg.toyotapartsandservice.com...2005&int_id=12
Plugs replaced?
Necessary to pull/inspect plugs so they don’t seize to the head?
Plug wires?
Fuel filter?
Tranny fluid change?
Coolant flush?
Water pump?
Thermostat?
Power steering fluid flush?
Brake fluid flush?
Another forever man, thats fine...i will drive my 02 til the wheels fall off. 30 years experience working on this shet and here is my 2 cents since you are asking.
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Necessary to pull/inspect plugs so they don’t seize to the head?
Plug wires?
Those plugs are probably iridium and if so they will last at least 100,000 m. If you are worried about seizing (and this is a perfectly reasonable concern) remove them and put anti sieze on the threads and reinstall. on my 02 V6 it uses no plug cables just some wires to the coil connecter and these do not require changing until failure. Do a search.
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Fuel filter?
on my 02 it is built into the pump and no filter change required. Again, do a search. Your fuel filter, if extant, would probably be located in the darkness under your air filter housing.
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Tranny fluid change
yes change it. Every 30 k is a good time. Check your dipstick for what fluid to use, it may be dexron or more likely Toyota TIV or V. I have had good luck with valvoline compatible. I have owned 11 cars and trucks, followed this interval and only changed one transmission so far (my 1988 nissan pickup with 290k got a junkyard trans at about 200k and worked fine til last year when it wouldnt smog and i had to dump her.)
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Coolant flush?
yes, do it yourself or pay the overpriced shop - just change it. If you change your coolant every year i believe it is not too often. The aforementioned Nissan pickup still had the original radiator when i junked her at 290k (green coolant).
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Water pump?
Thermostat?
Whats it gonna cost you. The water pump will definitely tell you when it needs changing by leaking and/or noise. It could go for another 100k for all you know, if you are worried have it changed when you do the timing belt otherwise wait for it go out.
As fir thermostat, same thing. Thermostat stuck open means you will be looking at the temp gauge wondering why is this thing taking so long to get warm. thermostat stuck CLOSED means instant overheat and you will see your gauge pegged. Like the water pump, could last for another 100k, or tomorrow. I'd wait til i was either changing radiator hoses or a coolant flush and change it then if you wish.
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Power steering flush
Again, whats this gonna cost you. I suck out the reservoir with a turkey baster every 10k and refill. This costs me about 5 bucks for everything. Same for the brake reservoir. Do this 3 or 4 times in one day, pretty close to a flush. Moreover you do not break the system or unbolt anything and you have no worry about leaks or a mess.
you can go to toyota.com for suggested maintenance schedule.
for coolant, i think it was suggested at very 1-2 years.
also for water pump etc, my mechanic suggest to change it along with the Timing Belt (every 6 years) as he will not charge me 'extra labor' because he is already 'inside taking apart the belt'.. haha
Again, whats this gonna cost you. I suck out the reservoir with a turkey baster every 10k and refill. This costs me about 5 bucks for everything. Same for the brake reservoir. Do this 3 or 4 times in one day, pretty close to a flush. Moreover you do not break the system or unbolt anything and you have no worry about leaks or a mess.
hey Slouch: i think i will do it the way u suggested above. i dont want to do the "bleeding way" cause i am not professional enough for it... lol
""pumping/ sucking the fluids out of the reservoirs and do it 3 to 4 times a day""
do i suck it out then refill. then do I need to run the engine, step on the brake etc? then suck out and refill again? and suck out and refill one last time?
cause my 03 V6 has not had a PS or brake fluid change since buying it new in 2003....
the PS fluid is light brown clear, and brake fluid is clear (like cooking oil)...
do you suggest buying the fluids from Toyota dealer (just to be safe, no compatibility issues)??
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