5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.
I'm looking at entering the wonderful world of the Gen 6 Camry.
I currently own a 95 Mitsubishi 3000gt, I will have to admit this new SE V6 has me pleasantly impressed, so I've been on the lookout for a good used one for the past few weeks.
Here are my two main choices in Canadian dollars.
2007 Leased vehicle out of town with over 60,000kms for $22,000
2008 Toyota Dealership Demo with ~10,000-15,000kms for $32,900 (heated leather & JBL pkg)
My main concern is the whole flaring issue, are the 08's signifigantly improved in this area and worth the extra money? They are both still under warrenty.
I'm looking at entering the wonderful world of the Gen 6 Camry.
I currently own a 95 Mitsubishi 3000gt, I will have to admit this new SE V6 has me pleasantly impressed, so I've been on the lookout for a good used one for the past few weeks.
Here are my two main choices in Canadian dollars.
2007 Leased vehicle out of town with over 60,000kms for $22,000
2008 Toyota Dealership Demo with ~10,000-15,000kms for $32,900 (heated leather & JBL pkg)
My main concern is the whole flaring issue, are the 08's signifigantly improved in this area and worth the extra money? They are both still under warrenty.
Whats do you guys think??
I don't think it matters, get the one you like and have it updated. I have an early 07 LE V6 (made in Japan) and did have the trans flaring issue at low speeds 2 or 3 times during the first year but it seems to have gone away over time because it hasn't done it in a long time. It wasn't even bad enough to bother with the update.. I still havn't had it done. Mine has about 39K miles now and works fine. All I've done is change oil and filters and I've had no problems with it. I have the dealer do the oil changes and do the air and cabin filters myself.
By the way I just got my wife the 09 LE V6 and I can't tell any difference in the performance, seems like the exact same car to me.
I think the decision is more how many miles/km you will put on - based on that their is a difference buying a car with 60000km or 10000km on the clock. Oh, and what you can afford. If you can afford it, I would always opt for the newer, less mileage car - independent of flare history.
Lets say the car with 60,000kms has been proven to not have the flair issues, is it known to occur after this much milage? Because in that case getting the 08 almost new is a little more risky.
And is it a fact the Japanese built Camrys are better and less prone to such problems? How can you tell, I know its specified on the cars serial or ID with a J or something. So 07 and 08 are the same with the flaring? how about the 09? same thing?
I agree the 08 is overpriced, plus the 07 is fairly cheap (probably due to the high milage) but I know they are willing to negotiate at least a grand with the 08, personally I was hoping to get a 07+ SE V6 for around $25,000.
Lets say the car with 60,000kms has been proven to not have the flair issues, is it known to occur after this much milage? Because in that case getting the 08 almost new is a little more risky.
And is it a fact the Japanese built Camrys are better and less prone to such problems? How can you tell, I know its specified on the cars serial or ID with a J or something. So 07 and 08 are the same with the flaring? how about the 09? same thing?
I agree the 08 is overpriced, plus the 07 is fairly cheap (probably due to the high milage) but I know they are willing to negotiate at least a grand with the 08, personally I was hoping to get a 07+ SE V6 for around $25,000.
I didn't mean to imply there was a difference in the made in Japan model I just said that because it would indicate I have a very early one so if anyone would have problems it would be me.
I don't know how to compare prices from Canada to USA so I have no way of knowing what a "deal" is for you. However, I would tend to agree that you should buy a new 09 if you can afford it. It will be worth more at resale time and will have a full warranty. Camry hold their value so well you can't get a deal on a used one so it's the type of car to buy new when you can. You want to be the person on the selling end of the used deal when the time comes and have the newest year model.
I think it's been pretty clear that, at some point in time, reports of the V6/6AT flare issue went down A LOT -- it has only been a veritable few 2008's or 2009's that have reported any flaring. I'd pick a 2008 over a 2007, any day of the week.
As for "finding a 'Made in Japan' SE," I sure get the impression that SE's only have come from the US. Or, at the least, very damn few have come from Japan.
Yea I thought I've read that the 08s have been improved and less prone. I've also read somewhere that the Camry was also made in north american plants from subaru and the ones produced there might be related to the problems of this generation Camry. Whether thats true or not I dont know. I'm thinking I might as well go new too for that price, so I'm going to have to try and lower the cost of that 08 even more and make it more comparable to the 60,000km $22,000 07 model which I have yet to see in person as its out of town. I set up an appointment this weekend to look at it. its a 6 hour drive there and back so hopefully its worth it.
WAY OVERPRICED! I got a 09 CAMRY SE, plus i had them add the navi and blk leather. for 26K my final price plus tax and warranty came out to be 30K...
SO GO WITH A BRAND NU 09.
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My 07 was built in Sept, 06. It had the flair. The tsb was issued in May, 07 and all cars built after that time had the updated firmware. I read this group and no owner of an 07 built after the tsb, nor any 08 nor any 09 has been reported with the 2-3 flair. No discussion in the past year references anyone having to have the 07 tranny swapped out. The firmware on my car was flashed and the problem was solved.
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Yes, I agree that the price for the 08 is WAYYYYY overpriced. That price is like MSRP sticker price. I wouldnt even go to them even with the $1000 off. Its a rip off. I bought my 09 SE V6 for $28,000 USD and it came with sunroof, spoiler, heated leather seats, heated mirrors and nav w/jbl. And the car is coming off the production line.
If thats the price of an 08 SE with miles put on it....I wonder how much a brand spanking new 09 would cost. Probably so much that your ass will hurt for the next 10 years thanks to being raped by the dealership
Some good info, although a little mixed, I've read the flare has improved but I think I have also read an 08 owner complain about the flare issue somewhere, I'll see if I can track that down.
When I go for another test drive can anyone explain what the flare feels like and how to test to see if the car has it. Also if there are any other issues to look out for.
Also what do you guys think would be a reasonable price for that 08, I'm thinking $27,000 max but I'm sure they will make a counteroffer, when I talked to the guy he said to give him a number and he'll see what he can do, I haven't yet, but they've been calling me.
Also what do you guys think would be a reasonable price for that 08, I'm thinking $27,000 max, when I talked to the guy he said to give him a number and he'll see what he can do, I haven't yet, but they've been calling me.
Leather? Nav? Heated Seats/Mirrors? We need to know what other options added.
So theres approximatley 6,200-9,300 miles? I say $24,500-25,500 USD.
Yes, I agree that the price for the 08 is WAYYYYY overpriced. That price is like MSRP sticker price. I wouldnt even go to them even with the $1000 off. Its a rip off. I bought my 09 SE V6 for $28,000 USD and it came with sunroof, spoiler, heated leather seats, heated mirrors and nav w/jbl. And the car is coming off the production line.
If thats the price of an 08 SE with miles put on it....I wonder how much a brand spanking new 09 would cost. Probably so much that your ass will hurt for the next 10 years thanks to being raped by the dealership
It's not just currency exchange - MSRP's in CA are much higher to start with (due to taxes, I believe).
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And that '08 seem a bit over priced.
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