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Old 08-06-2008, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen5 Do Springs go bad when riding on blown struts?

I have been dealing with suspension problems for a while... TRD Springs and stock Struts. Fronts make popping noises during slow turns (IE:pullingout of parking spot) and the backs creek and squeel when going over speedbumps. I took the car in to the dealer and they say the struts are blown due to the drop. I have been still driving like this for a couple months and want to know when I replace the struts do I need to replace the springs too or are they Ok? Last thing I want is to pay all tha labor to replace struts and find out next month I need to pay them again to replace the springs too.

So, Are the springs still OK, or should I do a complete replacement?

And what exactly do I need to replace struts? Strut itself, Mount, boot, gaskets, seals..? I have no idea. Tire rack sells the strut and the boot and the mount. Do I neet to buy all of them?
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Springs do not need to be replaced. Look for a set of after-market struts/shocks that you like and is within your price range. Good luck!

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Do your struts have leaking oil all over them?

If not, they are probably ok.
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Do your struts have leaking oil all over them?

If not, they are probably ok.
I haven't checked personally but I have major creeking and noise coming from the rears that I never had before. Is it a mount, strut, or spring issue?

Also, I talked with a shop yesterday and the guy told me the poping sound is common and won't go away so long as the car is lowered. I would like to take a poll of how many of you guys have your camry lowered and have sound issues from the suspension and how many of you have lowering springs and have no sound issues from the suspension...
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popping is common, but can often be corrected - it can be caused by a spring that is not properly seated (which is what happens to me), or can be from a bad strut mount, suspension bushings, etc.

when lowering a car with springs, you should always upgrade to better struts that are made for lowering springs - stock struts are 100x more likely to blow
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popping is common, but can often be corrected - it can be caused by a spring that is not properly seated (which is what happens to me), or can be from a bad strut mount, suspension bushings, etc.

when lowering a car with springs, you should always upgrade to better struts that are made for lowering springs - stock struts are 100x more likely to blow
So to correctly lowering the car... how much r u looking at to spend to do it correctly? $1k? $2k?

I just want to know.. I know I won't lower it.
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Your drop did not cause the strut failure. When the vehicle is dropped the struts will travel less and actually last longer in many cases. It seems that people are under the impression that the pressure inside the struts increase when you drop the car. That isn't true.

TRD spring noise is common. Do a search. You can clean and lube the spring contact points which helps to relieve some of the binding noises you hear as the spring moves.

I'm having a hard time believing that you need struts and/or strut mounts on an '05.
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your springs are fine im sure....the only way ive seen springs go bad on a toyota is from cracking and rusting out due to extreme age
im dropped on TRD springs on a 63k mile 2003 camry and my struts are nice and blown....im upgrading to KYB GR2's as soon as i get them in the mail and well see how that goes....ive had some suspension issues with my car for the past month or so (instability, pulling, lack of dampening force, bottoming out, etc) but no noise...the noise is usually associated with the strut mounts going bad
i scored the KYBs off ebay...grab a set off there as theyre reasonable, and get oem strut mounts...itll save you a little money and theyre better struts for your springs!
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i'm dropped on eibachs and never heard a pop ever (2-3yrs drpped)
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i do have poping noise when turning slowly but i grease it up like trd vvti suggesgted and can barely hear the noise any more,

a bit off topic but is KYB Gr2 strut better then stock Se strut??? and what might be the price different between them
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^ slightly better, ever so slightly.
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i got my KYB GR2's from a seller off ebay called sparkplugsource....theyre the 2002-2003 struts only, but i got them for 302 shipped to my door
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^^^ can you please do a little review, comparing the kyb and the stock se strut. i think my strut is about to go bad, it making a werid noise now and the rubber thingy is stuck to it, also when the strut are blown, doe the leak seem a tack sticky???
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^^^ can you please do a little review, comparing the kyb and the stock se strut. i think my strut is about to go bad, it making a werid noise now and the rubber thingy is stuck to it, also when the strut are blown, doe the leak seem a tack sticky???
haha doe the leak seem a tack sticky?
yes the struts will leak a sticky oil that will run down the housing of the strut if theyre blown

my struts are not dampening at all, and the car always feels like its loose and bouncing around....in addition, the car likes to wander and such at speed
the struts do make a popping noise at low speed turns as well

ill also be sure and post a small review of the new struts
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i think my driver side strut is blown or somthing, it make a werid noise and the rubber thingy is stuck, i have pics of it, also the red/pinky thingy on the spring is grease, before my spring make lots of noise but aftter super greasing it the noise wear down and stop.


right side strut
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