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Old 09-08-2008, 01:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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parking brake creaks/squeals when on a hill

My 03 Camry with about 50k miles does it, I haven't had any brake service yet because my tire shop says its not needed yet. I don't know if this is normal or not, but I recently moved to San Francisco from San Diego and I never really parked on a hill in San Diego before but now I'm parking on hills constantly and notice that after I set the parking brake and release the brake pedal there is a short, loud squeak/creak/grind sound until the car settles. Is this normal? Does this happen to anyone else?
I used to have a 93 Camry which also did that too.

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It shouldn't make much noise at all.

You can try adjusting the brake to see if that helps at all. My car barely moves when I set the parking brake properly and I always park in neutral. I seldom leave my car in gear when I park it.

Put the car in neutral, pull the brake, and release your foot brake to ensure that the parking brake is actually holding the car rather than the park position on the transmission. 6-8 clicks should be enough to hold the car on a hill.

Which part of SF are you in? I tried parallel parking on Union Street once...never again...I don't even want to drive there, but then again I was a complete when I did that.
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It shouldn't make much noise at all.

You can try adjusting the brake to see if that helps at all. My car barely moves when I set the parking brake properly and I always park in neutral. I seldom leave my car in gear when I park it.

Put the car in neutral, pull the brake, and release your foot brake to ensure that the parking brake is actually holding the car rather than the park position on the transmission. 6-8 clicks should be enough to hold the car on a hill.

Which part of SF are you in? I tried parallel parking on Union Street once...never again...I don't even want to drive there, but then again I was a complete when I did that.
I'lll try putting it in neutral before switching it to parking and see what happens, I'm in the Inner Sunset area, still a good amount of hills....That's SF for ya
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Actually they do make a little bit of a groaning sound on steep slopes, especially the V6, since they have a smaller parking brake setup.

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You didn't say which brakes you had in the rear or the trim level of your Camry (SE, LE, XLE) so exact information can't be furnished to you.

It does sound like your parking brakes need to be adjusted if you can't apply them to hold the vehicle properly.
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You didn't say which brakes you had in the rear or the trim level of your Camry (SE, LE, XLE) so exact information can't be furnished to you.

It does sound like your parking brakes need to be adjusted if you can't apply them to hold the vehicle properly.
I have an 03 camry LE auto, no fancy add-ons so I don't think it has ABS. Does anyone know if it is 4 wheel disc brakes or rear drums?
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I have an 03 camry LE auto, no fancy add-ons so I don't think it has ABS. Does anyone know if it is 4 wheel disc brakes or rear drums?
The LE should have rear drums. I believe the SE, XLE, and all V6 have 4 wheel discs.

How many clicks does it take to hold the car on a hill without the assistance of the transmission?
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I'lll try putting it in neutral before switching it to parking and see what happens, I'm in the Inner Sunset area, still a good amount of hills....That's SF for ya
I'm in outer Sunset so it's not flat over here either. I think I stalled my car 3 times the first time I tried to get the car in the garage.
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Drums always make that groaning noise, but it shouldn't be too loud.

Even my Gen6 makes a little noise, and I think it says that it has a drum in disc kind of parking brakes?

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Drums always make that groaning noise, but it shouldn't be too loud.

Even my Gen6 makes a little noise, and I think it says that it has a drum in disc kind of parking brakes?
If you pull off the wheel, you'll notice that the middle bulges out wards compared to the portion that's scrubbed by the caliper. There's a drum setup inside that's actuated by the handbrake lever for parking and emergency use.
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The LE should have rear drums. I believe the SE, XLE, and all V6 have 4 wheel discs.

How many clicks does it take to hold the car on a hill without the assistance of the transmission?
Well I found that if I REALLY pull the brake to the point where it cannot go anymore then the car won't roll on a hill and won't squeal, only problem is it takes a bit of effort to disengage the ebrake handle when I get going again.
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It sounds like your brakes might be out of adjustment. They're supposed to be self adjusting, but in my 2000 Camry that mechanism didn't work at all.

Have you ever had them adjusted?

Are you over by Grand View Park or Mt Sutro? That's about the hills I can think of in inner sunset. I'm in outer sunset.
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Well I found that if I REALLY pull the brake to the point where it cannot go anymore then the car won't roll on a hill and won't squeal, only problem is it takes a bit of effort to disengage the ebrake handle when I get going again.
How many clicks do you get when you pull the park brake handle up? The spec calls for 6 to 9 clicks for a properly adjusted park brake. And yes, Toyota does have spec for that too.

On the other, you shouldn't have to pull on it to the point that it would be difficult for you to release them. As long as the car doesn't roll when it is in neutral with the parking brake on, that all you need. Even when they are working perfectly, the park brake will make a slight groaning type noise when the suspension and the car settle. Putting the parking brake on too tighten actually is not good when the brake drums are hot, you MIGHT cause them to get out of round.

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You didn't say which brakes you had in the rear or the trim level of your Camry (SE, LE, XLE) so exact information can't be furnished to you.
Isn't it normal to assume that it is still OEM when it's not stated? Of cause to be clear it is always good to say it even when it seem obvious.

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Put the car in neutral, pull the brake, and release your foot brake to ensure that the parking brake is actually holding the car rather than the park position on the transmission. 6-8 clicks should be enough to hold the car on a hill.
Isn't it recommended to always put the car in "Park" when it is parked?

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Well I found that if I REALLY pull the brake to the point where it cannot go anymore then the car won't roll on a hill and won't squeal, only problem is it takes a bit of effort to disengage the ebrake handle when I get going again.
I have similar situation like yours. My drive way is slanted so my choice are to press it hard (foot brake) or light and live with the noise.

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Putting the parking brake on too tighten actually is not good when the brake drums are hot, you MIGHT cause them to get out of round.
My Gen6 have disc brakes and I think I am having similar problem. I always put my foot brake on when I park the car and now my brake seem to be uneven when I'm braking. I do mostly highway driving so when I brake it is usually a long brake and when the car almost stop I let it go a little. So I don't see why my brake is uneven when braking.

Unless it is cause by my always put on foot brake when park.
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My Gen6 have disc brakes and I think I am having similar problem. I always put my foot brake on when I park the car and now my brake seem to be uneven when I'm braking. I do mostly highway driving so when I brake it is usually a long brake and when the car almost stop I let it go a little. So I don't see why my brake is uneven when braking.

Unless it is cause by my always put on foot brake when park.
The four wheel disc brakes has a slight different parking brake setup; while it still uses brakes shoes, the only time those shoes are used is when the parking brake is set. The parking brakes on the four wheel disc setup is inside the rear discs. Brake pulsation or vibration on disc brakes can be caused by overheated brakes due to overused or riding the brakes, and uneven tighten of the lug nuts. If you can feel the vibration/pulsation in the steering it is usually the front discs that are warped, it you can feel it in the seat more, the rear discs might be the cause. Both may also be felt in the brake pedal during braking.

On the front disc and rear drum setup, the same rear drum brake shoes are used for parking brake duty.

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