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Old 11-14-2008, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK TN Members, lets put our heads together to solve my little problem.

A couple of months ago, I found a TN user who was selling their stock 18" Lexus IS Rims. I picked up some tires and sold my intact XLE Rims to another TN user, with TPMS installed. He in turn, sent me his four LE TPMS in a nice little box. I installed them in the new 18" rims and pressed the reset button.

2 MISTAKES -- I failed to write down the FCC codes for the newly installed sensors and I hit the reset button, which apparently was never activated in the first place. Now my TPMS light is on and so is his.

POSSIBLE SOLUTION -- exchange TPMS Control Boxes along with Spare Tires. Plug in new box and problem solved!!

PROBLEM -- I have no idea where in the dash the TPMS Control box is located. I removed the glove box and tried to trace from the reset switch, but it dissappears into a massive wire bundle.

Well, expert TN users, lets get some guidance on this issue...

Thanks in advance!!!
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Well, search again!!!



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1st, there is no sensor in the spare tires. Not if you don't put one.

2nd, TMPS have to be programed by dealer, expensive I think.

3rd, best thing is just get all of your old TPMS back, I wouldn't mess with what's in the dash.
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Your Factory Service Manual shows the ECU is above the Glove box.

You screwed up and apparently want to continue.

Have Fun.......

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Your Factory Service Manual shows the ECU is above the Glove box.

You screwed up and apparently want to continue.

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NOT EVERYONE HAS ONE OF THEM! Man, you really are a grumpy old dick. If i were you id go take a ride in my 4 cylinder Lexus. Also, the ECU is under the hood in the engine compartment, i have pics to prove it. And to the op..try and get your old TPMS back
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Your Factory Service Manual shows the ECU is above the Glove box.

You screwed up and apparently want to continue.

Have Fun.......

Yes njerald, I do want to continue, as this approach so far is not costing me any more money.

I don't believe I received a Factory Service Manual when I bought the car. Any chance you could send me a scan of this drawing?

I do have a compact spare, so one less TPMS to register.

Page 178 of my Owner's Manual quotes "ID codes on the tire pressure warning valves and transmitters are registered on the tire pressure warning ECU."

This statement implies the TPMS ECU is separate from the Engine Control Unit, which is in fact under the hood. I assume the Dealer programs the TPMS through the OBDII connector, but I doubt the codes are registered in the engine computer, or even tied into it in any way, which is why I believe swapping the TPMS ECU will fix my problem.

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Well, search again!!!



I kid, I kid!!!



1st, there is no sensor in the spare tires. Not if you don't put one.

2nd, TMPS have to be programed by dealer, expensive I think.

3rd, best thing is just get all of your old TPMS back, I wouldn't mess with what's in the dash.
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NOT EVERYONE HAS ONE OF THEM! Man, you really are a grumpy old dick. If i were you id go take a ride in my 4 cylinder Lexus. Also, the ECU is under the hood in the engine compartment, i have pics to prove it. And to the op..try and get your old TPMS back
Actually guys...getting his old TPMS back might be more expensive. Here is why.
It costed me $80 dollar to have the dealer reprogram each sensors ($20 for each sensor) They just need the serial number from each sensor. They opened/seperated the tires from the wheels just enough for them to look at the s/n. That's way they don't have to rebalance the tires.
If you get the old TPMS back then it will cost you at least $80 or more just for your tires to be swap out those TPMS.
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NOT EVERYONE HAS ONE OF THEM! Man, you really are a grumpy old dick. If i were you id go take a ride in my 4 cylinder Lexus. Also, the ECU is under the hood in the engine compartment, i have pics to prove it. And to the op..try and get your old TPMS back
The know it all teenager is wrong again. There is just no comprehension between the ears apparently.

There are a number of ECUs in the car. Maybe news to you.

He wants the TPMS ECU which is above the glove box, not in the engine compartment.

Maybe someday when you get a car and an education, you can answer correctly.

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Yes njerald, I do want to continue, as this approach so far is not costing me any more money.

I don't believe I received a Factory Service Manual when I bought the car. Any chance you could send me a scan of this drawing?

I do have a compact spare, so one less TPMS to register.

Page 178 of my Owner's Manual quotes "ID codes on the tire pressure warning valves and transmitters are registered on the tire pressure warning ECU."

This statement implies the TPMS ECU is separate from the Engine Control Unit, which is in fact under the hood. I assume the Dealer programs the TPMS through the OBDII connector, but I doubt the codes are registered in the engine computer, or even tied into it in any way, which is why I believe swapping the TPMS ECU will fix my problem.
You are probably right but you have to be careful with the airbag and sensors nearby.

I'll PM you.
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The know it all teenager is wrong again. There is just no comprehension between the ears apparently.

There are a number of ECUs in the car. Maybe news to you.

He wants the TPMS ECU which is above the glove box, not in the engine compartment.

Maybe someday when you get a car and an education, you can answer correctly.
ECU stands for ENGINE CONTROL UNIT. I wasn't aware that the TPMS is an engine. I know theres many computers in the car. Like the body computer, EDR, trans control, airbag module, ABS/trac/stb computer, and so on. But they are not all ENGINE control units
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ECU stands for ENGINE CONTROL UNIT. I wasn't aware that the TPMS is an engine. I know theres many computers in the car. Like the body computer, EDR, trans control, airbag module. and so on. But they are not all ENGINE control units

Man, you are dense.........ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT.

Just another education lesson today.......

Open your manual, turn the pages and try to absorb something.....

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The tire pressure sensor ID codes can be retrieved without removing wheels or tires off the vehicle. After retrieving the ID of the sensors that you have, they can be registered into the current TPMS ECU that you have on the vehicle. The whole process shouldn't take more than 30 to 45 minutes. Your Toyota dealer should have the TPMS ID reader in their special tool inventory, give them a call to verify.

And njerald is correct, there are more ECU on the newer cars nowadays, than anyone care to keep track off.

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Man, you are dense.........ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT.

Just another education lesson today.......
ok, ill admit I'm wrong. Thanks for the lesson.
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And njerald is correct, there are more ECU on the newer cars nowadays, than anyone care to keep track off.

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I know there are many computers in a car. I Thought that ECU meant engine control unit. Not electronic control unit.
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I know there are many computers in a car. I Thought that ECU meant engine control unit. Not electronic control unit.
In the earlier days, you would have been correct; that is why nowadays, it is call ECM, Engine Control Module, for one thing it is to standardize the terminology for all manufacturers and also to keep the confusion to a minimum.

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Actually guys...getting his old TPMS back might be more expensive. Here is why.
It costed me $80 dollar to have the dealer reprogram each sensors ($20 for each sensor) They just need the serial number from each sensor. They opened/seperated the tires from the wheels just enough for them to look at the s/n. That's way they don't have to rebalance the tires.
If you get the old TPMS back then it will cost you at least $80 or more just for your tires to be swap out those TPMS.

I got a quote to swap myold rims with my new rims (06 Avalon Rims) for 50 dollars
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