5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
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Today started off with an outside temp of -26 F and I drove my 2002 Camry SE with a 3.0 V6 for approx 120 miles. I shut the car off for 2 hours and went out to start it and it turned over many time but didnt start. After about 10 minutes of this, it finally started and the check engine light came on. The car would idle at 500 RPM and you could push the gas pedal to the floor and it would not rev up or even act like I was touching it. I let it idle for 30 minutes and then turned it off and restarted it. This time it started fine but the check engine light stayed on. I drove the car home and pulled these two codes. P1128 and P1129. I called the dealership and they said I needed to spend $1400 and replace the throttle body, gasket, and intake surge tank. I am not willing to spend that much to get this fixed, when it seems like it should have been a recall item. Has anyone else had this problem, if so how did you fix it? Or where can I get a cheaper throttle body and parts to fix this problem. This is my daily driver and I drive approx 30 miles to work everyday. <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
When I called the dealer they stated they had the TSB and it said that I needed to replace the throttle body and such for the grand total of $1400 plus tax. I will sell the car before I pay that much to fix a problem that should have been a recall. I just want to know if anyone else has had this, which they should have, since toyota put out a TSB on it. And what they did to fix the problem. I have found many used Throttle Bodys on Ebay but how do I know if they were made after 2002 and are the updated version?
I will sell the car before I pay that much to fix a problem that should have been a recall.
So you would rather pay $25K+ for a new car then replace a $1400 part? That makes no sense. The car is 8 years old...things are going to start wearing out. Try cleaning out the throttle body and your IAC (idle air control valve). Might help.
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Thats the whole point. It is not because the parts are wearing out! It is a defect that toyota knows about and wont own up to it!! If it was a simple thing as a part wearing out they would replace it with the same part. But in this case they are replacing it with a different part. That means that there is a problem with the original part and it doesn't work like it should. Yes the car just turned 7 years old but it only has 60k on it. I am just plain mad at toyota. They are not standing behind the cars that they are selling.
Of course your upset. You might talk to the owner of the dealership in person. If so be polite when presenting your case. If you purchased the car from this dealer you may have some chance. Dealers not Toyota tends to have final say on these out of warranty issues.
If your still stuck buy the part yourself, one suggested site is below. Cost is around $650, still a rip off but less then the $1400. Or try Toyota of Dallas that sells parts around 30% off.
I was now wondering if anyone knows what year toyota decided to fix this problem. I found alot of throttle bodys on ebay for under $250 but I don't know if I will get the same one I already have with this problem or if I can find one that will work. If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate it. Or if anyone knows what other years throttle bodys will work on this car that would help. Thankyou
My Camry 2002 did the SAME THING on jan 15th. It was -26 F, car sat at work in parking lot. Got out of work and the engine was trying to turn over, but wouldn't start up. Finally I jumped it and the check engine light came on, along with Trac off and VSC (?) light. I took it to Toyota, and they quoted me $1900.00!!!! to fix the throttle (which was the problem). I find it unreal that this is not recalled.
Note: It's not Toyota at fault but the fact that you went to a crummy dealership. That's why you don't trust the dealer for everything but find a competent mechanic (which can be a challenge) to see if they can pull a little black magic (aka oily fingers) and fix it for less and still do great work.
Call Toyota corporate customer service at 1-800-331-4331 and discuss the problem with them. Be calm and have all your facts together. Tell them you know of a TSB for this problem. Give them the TSB number. Tell them that you feel this should have been a recall since Toyota knew of the problem. Tell them you are looking for a little good will here.
According to the TSB, the concern only affect '02 vehicles, so there is a very good chance '03 production vehicles will have the updated parts, that is if they are the same. What you can do is call up a dealer, give them the part numbers that were provide in the TSB and ask them what years do the parts cover. Then you can find out what is available out there that will work for you.
I spoke with the parts department at another dealership today. They told me that I could get the throttle body off a 2003 and it should fit. Should being the key word. Then I only have the buy the intake surge tank, and gaskets from them for a new grand total of $680 to the dealership and $200 to ebay for the throttle body. $880 is better than $1400 but I am still very angry with toyota. I called the toyota service phone number and the guy on the other end stated that if I had brought this in during my warrenty period they would have replaced it for free. Thankyou all for all your help and if you have any other ideas let me know. I am going to wait a few days before I order all of these parts.
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