Light Output (Lumen) VS Longevity?

[xpeed]

Toshiba HIRs have 75% light input of a HID bulb. It should be pretty nice.

[icqboy51]

on sylvania's website, saw 9005LL. does "LL" = Long Life?? that can last up to 750 hrs?

[salvimoreno]

Hey sorry to thread jack but what bulbs emit a white beam? Also do these same bubls fit the fog lights for an 08 camry? Have you guys bought bulbs off ebay? Sorry for so many questions but thanks for the help anyone.

[xpeed]

^ To answer your question, any bulbs that have a medium to little blue tint with give you a white beam. Fog bulbs might be different, check with your manual or bulb list that are available for your fogs. I have bought my bulbs from eBay many times only because they're cheaper compared to the ones sold in stores. So far, I haven't had any issues with them.

icqboy51: 750 hours is pretty bad, did you meant 7500 hours? Because that's above average for most bulbs. LEDs last a bit over 10000 hours. So if you have a bulb that runs over 7500 hours is pretty good.

[aznlunatic206]

so for the toshiba hir bulbs, is the light output white, or orange but brighter than oem?

[icqboy51]

I am not sure. i am just referencing according to Sylvania's site:

http://www.sylvaniaautocatalog.com/s...&FigNumber=126

http://www.sylvaniaautocatalog.com/s...er=127,130,131

their high beams 9005LL get 700 (hours?)
low beams 9006 get 1000-1500 (hours?)

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[xpeed]

Originally Posted by aznlunatic206

so for the toshiba hir bulbs, is the light output white, or orange but brighter than oem?

That I can't give you a direct answer, but referring to their product website, it gives out 75% of brightness compared to a 5300k HID lumens.

[tekdemon]

NONE of them will last as long as the stock OEM bulbs. The OEM bulbs are sylvania standard bulbs. If you look at Sylvania's own packaging, the standard bulbs get five bars (whatever that means) for longevity, whereas the Silverstars get one bar (and their other bulbs fall in between).
I just recently changed out one of my bulbs and was surprised that the bulb I was taking out was identical to the stock sylvania I was putting in (was waiting for the Silverstar Ultras I bought to get here but needed a bulb in the meantime). It's lasted me 5 and a half years (of somewhat light use though, my car has about 4 years worth of miles), and the other bulb is still pretty bright so I might get quite a bit more out of it.
That said, if you don't mind changing bulbs once every 1-2 years the Silverstar Ultras aren't too bad-but it really just makes it obvious how much greater the profit margins are on those-you make a bulb that lasts 1/5th as long and then sell it for 3x the price when it really doesn't cost any more to manufacture.
The HIRs are very bright, but they're brighter because the coating is reflecting a lot of the lost heat back onto the filament to make it burn even brighter. That is not actually good for bulb life either, so don't expect OEM longevity out of any of these bulbs-they all make more light by burning the filament brighter!

[icqboy51]

i just did a 9006 to 9005 conversion.

bought a GE Motomaster 9005 (Made in Hungry) for this 'trial version'.

the 9006 that i took out was from Sylvania Made in USA (excellent quality 6 years and still going OEM bulbs).

Are the replacement 9006/ 9005 bulbs from Sylvania all Made in USA?

The 9006 to 9005 conversion did not have much difference.

Difference is not apparent but noticeable if stare for a second and will see the 9005 is little brighter.

[MrSo0h0o]

Originally Posted by aznlunatic206

so for the toshiba hir bulbs, is the light output white, or orange but brighter than oem?

The Toshiba HIR's are definitely whiter than OEM bulbs. You want to come drive in front of me? lol

[LNGasMan]

Don't get the numbers confused:

HIR 9011 = 9005
HIR 9012 = 9006 (Also John Deere part # AH211917)

Check out http://hirheadlights.com/ for more info and a place to purchase. The website has the specs listed in comparison to stock 9005/9006 bulbs.

I use the HIR 9011 in my high beams and they are bright! Same yellowish color as halogen, not white like OEM HID and not as bright as HID.