Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus XL - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

MJZ · 02-06-2009, 09:16 PM

225/45ZR18 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus IN STOCK 4 $214.00 $856.00
Oh god, I think I just spent more on my tires than my rims... (18" Camry TRD).

Does anyone have experience with these tires by any chance? I was looking for something long lasting and really great for all around usage.

Goobee · 02-06-2009, 11:24 PM

TireRack:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ort+A%2FS+Plus

***Yazovets*** · 02-07-2009, 11:50 PM

Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 are the current champ according to TireRack. Don't know why you're going for the Pilot Sport model. The Exalto does everything that Pilot Sport does but with suction-cup like wet traction. Isn't that obviously more desirable?

Price is $150 a tire too.

And besides, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. The Camry (even in SE V6 form) can never make proper use of such tires...

***PhatRoyale*** · 02-07-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Yazovets

And besides, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. The Camry (even in SE V6 form) can never make proper use of such tires...

+1

MJZ · 02-08-2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Yazovets

Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 are the current champ according to TireRack. Don't know why you're going for the Pilot Sport model. The Exalto does everything that Pilot Sport does but with suction-cup like wet traction. Isn't that obviously more desirable?

Price is $150 a tire too.

And besides, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. The Camry (even in SE V6 form) can never make proper use of such tires...

The Champ of what? Summer tires?

Don't want (or need) Summer Tires, and I don't believe the Exaltos come in the recommended size of the TRD wheels. Get them in 18's of any size and they are not $150s either.

MJZ · 02-08-2009, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JJJJJJ

Michelin Pilots last 4 years max.

I've had 3 sets since 1998.

4 years! I do not plan on keeping tires (or car for that matter) longer than 4 years!

smilepak · 02-09-2009, 05:45 PM

How about Yokohama YK520? They are exclusive to American Tires / Discount Tires

http://www.epinions.com/review/Yokoh...t_410824117892

Their review are fairly strong. I have them, not too bad.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tir...Selected=91710

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/readReviewsTire.do?ra=%2Ftires%2Fyokohama%2Fproduc t%2FbyName.do&tc=YOKHHM&r=LAIINT|pc|91710&typ=Pass enger%2FPerformance&tmn=YK520

centennialman · 02-09-2009, 06:01 PM

My Kumho Ecsta LX are better then the Michelins that my TRD wheels came with.

***lammydi*** · 02-09-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by centennialman

My Kumho Ecsta LX are better then the Michelins that my TRD wheels came with.

+1 on the Kumho Ecsta LX.

MJZ · 02-09-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by centennialman

My Kumho Ecsta LX are better then the Michelins that my TRD wheels came with.

Very likely. The reviews for the Michelins that the TRD wheels come with are terrible.

Which is why I am buying these Pilots separately with individual wheels rather than the package.

smilepak · 02-09-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lammydi

+1 on the Kumho Ecsta LX.

On Tire Rack, their review is worst than Michelin

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ta+LX+Platinum

centennialman · 02-09-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by smilepak

On Tire Rack, their review is worst than Michelin

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ta+LX+Platinum

So?

***lammydi*** · 02-09-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smilepak

On Tire Rack, their review is worst than Michelin

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ta+LX+Platinum

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Originally Posted by centennialman

So?

Like centennialman said, so? If you rather believe those "reviewers" than us members here then we have nothing else to say.

centennialman · 02-09-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JJJJJJ

This is backed up by many engineering studies. If you look at Airplanes or even the Space Shuttle - you'll see they tend to use Michelin exclusively for precisely that reason - manufacturing, and in particular sidewall strength.

State your sources. Or perhaps you're talking out of your ass? I'm going to guess the latter.

I've never had Nankang tires, but until I do I can't comment how "cheap" they might be. I've done quite well with Hankooks, Kumho and Nexen tires. Maybe that so called third rate manufacturing process isn't so bad since it's exceded my expectations for how a tire should perform. It's all relative really. If someone has had a good experience with Michelins but horrible with Kumho's, I can find another person with the exact opposite reaction.

I'd rather spend my $$ on a Korean product than a French one anyways

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MJZ · 02-09-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by centennialman

State your sources. Or perhaps you're talking out of your ass? I'm going to guess the latter.

I've never had Nankang tires, but until I do I can't comment how "cheap" they might be. I've done quite well with Hankooks, Kumho and Nexen tires. Maybe that so called third rate manufacturing process isn't so bad since it's exceded my expectations for how a tire should perform. It's all relative really. If someone has had a good experience with Michelins but horrible with Kumho's, I can find another person with the exact opposite reaction.

I'd rather spend my $$ on a Korean product than a French one anyways

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I think the Hyundai Genesis is your next car

But the Michelins I bought are undoubtably THE best A/S tires on the market, and probably the most expensive.