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Old 01-15-2004, 09:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2001 camry LeV6 vs. 2004 bmw 325xi

i have the 2001 camry LeV6

3.0 liter v6
194-hp @ 5200 rpm
209 lbs.-ft. @ 4400 rpm
Curb weight: 3,175 lbs

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my friend just got a 2004 bmw 325xi

2.5 liter inline 6
184 hp @ 6000 rpm
175 lbs.-ft @ 3500 rpm
Curb Weight: 3,461 lbs


would i lose in a flat run (0-60? 1/4 mile?)
stock vs stock, auto on both

yes, ill admit he has a nicer ride overall , but im just curious..
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Old 01-15-2004, 10:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like you have the advantage, more power and less weight. Make sure to get a good launch.
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Old 01-16-2004, 12:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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well, BMWs are fast, 50/50 weight distribution, and RWD, well, AWD in this case, is it manual..?

it'll be close, ill tell you that...
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i think the tranny is gonna have to be the determining factor here, but yeah, close
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Old 01-16-2004, 01:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 2001 camry LeV6 vs. 2004 bmw 325xi

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stock vs stock, auto on both

do it and report back
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indeed, will probably be quite interesting
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Old 01-16-2004, 11:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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alrite, ill ask him, i think he'll do it, but i need some tips first

like, when i mash down the pedal at a stand-still, i get massive tire spin, so when i launch, do i just push down a little for it to stick and then floor it?

and should i turn o/d off? so 4th gear won't engage?

lastly, maybe its just my mind, but when i turn o/d off and push down the pedal from a stand-still.. the car seems to give me more power quicker.. i kno it's not the function of o/d, but ive tried several times with same results
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Get grippy tires.

The xi has lots of advantange when it comes to traction. That's also your biggest disadvantage, being a FWD vehicle.

Or maybe forget about launching and just race from a roll But beware HP numbers on BMW are often underrated.
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i think if i can get him to start from a roll.. ill do much better.. haha cause his awd is his advantage from a stand still
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and id like to get grippy tires too, any recommendation on brand?

i have the 16" alloy's OEM rims
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Wouldn't AWD cause more power loss through the drivetrain than a F/RWD?
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First off the bimmer that your racing is the slowest one currently produced by bmw. Plus with the addition of AWD it's even slower. 7.6 sec 0-60 for manual, 8.6 for auto. You also gotta realize that BMW produces the best 6 cylinder engines in the world. It has half a liter less displacement and yet it still is nearly as powerful as the 1mzfe, and has a considerably higher hp per liter. If you wanna race to prove your car try hanging with an M3. Then you would be the man, but not nearly as styling.

Bottom line, you should be able to take him, but as far as bragging right, I think it would bring none.

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I just bought a Camry killer, and bimmer killer . Still have my Gen 3, but my Nissan Altima 3.5 with exhaust, intake and headers does 0-60 in 5.6 sec. Toyota needs to get back on the ball, everyones cars are faster it seems like.
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Old 01-16-2004, 05:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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as i mentioned earlier, im not doing this to prove that my car is better or anything like that.

from my first post: "yes, ill admit he has a nicer ride overall"

but i was merely wondering which is faster, and which ever one is.. that is a fact.

a grapefruit can say that it is considerably larger than a diamond and taste better, but obviously it's not as valuable..
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Old 01-16-2004, 05:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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uh... isn't an M3 racing a camry kinda like.. not fair..? haha

if i took the extra amount of money an M3 costs and dumped that into performance modding for a camry.. i think the camry would win (speed wise that is)
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You think you could make a cam do 0-60 in 4.7 sec? Good luck. Even if you did you could never match it's handeling. Besides, who would pour that extra money into a cam over having an M3?

But again, with the 325xi you should barely take it, assuming you have good tires.
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