Gen5-TSB 1088 (replace TB)

[Phi]

My dad just came back from the dealer after having some probs with the V6 Gen5. He said the car didn't start until the 5th try. Once fired up, it seemed to misfire and hesitate. While driving at moderate speeds he couldn't accelerate.

17109-0A080 Surge Tank
22030-20051 Throttle Body
bunch of gaskets

The scanner threw code P1125 (Throttle Control Motor Circuit) and the above parts were replaced under warranty according to TSB 1088.

I checked the TSB listed on Alldata.com and couldn't find that particular TSB. Just thought I'd let ya'll know.

[kgasso]

Hmm. Beginning to wonder if going to fly-by-wire was a bad idea for TMC.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by kgasso
Hmm. Beginning to wonder if going to fly-by-wire was a bad idea for TMC.

I was always worried about cars with fly-by-wire ... Thats like driving in cruise control on all the time...

[VVT-i Owns]

Eletronic is better!!

[Wraith]

Originally posted by VVT-i Owns
Eletronic is better!!

um ... I dont like to trust a computer on how I should drive because thats how its gonna get down too. I mean sooner or later they're going to make your right foot obsolete...

[BLUEMEANIE]

Originally posted by Wraith
...sooner or later they're going to make your right foot obsolete...

Nah... the purists/traditionalists will always have their options.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by BLUEMEANIE
Nah... the purists/traditionalists will always have their options.

and what do you think I am ... I believe in the freedom to control your own car...

[VVT-i Owns]

I don't see a problem...pedal to the floor still equals WOT.

Anyways with the traditional thottle bodies you can have problems too and they need to be serviced and adjusted quite often.

My friend got debris stuck in his throttle body once on the hiway....the car just kept on goin...

[andyman61]

wait? gen 5's have drive by wire? jeez, i thought only overpriced cars like mercedes and bmw's had stuff like that. i agree that cable and throttle body are the way to go though. hope it all works out with your car.

[Tony the Tiger]

Well, if debris gets stuck in the throttlebody, the throttle will still be stuck open regardless of being manual or electronic/drive-by-wire

I never like them from the start... I have seen far too many people removing this feature on other cars. It is popular to remove them on Nissan Sentra Spec V's, VW 1.8T's and VR6's. They are known to have a nasty hesitation between abrupt theottle changes

[Wraith]

Originally posted by Tony the Tiger
Well, if debris gets stuck in the throttlebody, the throttle will still be stuck open regardless of being manual or electronic/drive-by-wire

I never like them from the start... I have seen far too many people removing this feature on other cars. It is popular to remove them on Nissan Sentra Spec V's, VW 1.8T's and VR6's. They are known to have a nasty hesitation between abrupt theottle changes

Hey Tony... I agree with you on that ... I personnally know how throttle by wire is ... I have it in my tundra and you can notice alittle hesitation when slamming your foot to the floor...

[VVT-i Owns]

Originally posted by Tony the Tiger
Well, if debris gets stuck in the throttlebody, the throttle will still be stuck open regardless of being manual or electronic/drive-by-wire

I never like them from the start... I have seen far too many people removing this feature on other cars. It is popular to remove them on Nissan Sentra Spec V's, VW 1.8T's and VR6's. They are known to have a nasty hesitation between abrupt theottle changes

Well I meant the outside where the spring is..... debris can't get inside unless you have no filter.

Yes it does kinda hesitate, but I can't seem to notice if the car is Manual, only on the Autos.

[Tony the Tiger]

Originally posted by VVT-i Owns
Well I meant the outside where the spring is..... debris can't get inside unless you have no filter.

Buddy, I am talking about oil/carbon deposits......................... That is what causes the throttlebody to STICK.

Yes it does kinda hesitate, but I can't seem to notice if the car is Manual, only on the Autos.

You got it the other way around... The Nissan Sentra folks are hating the drive-by-wire because there is a lag between shifts. On a manual trans, you feel engine hesititation more than automatics... Automatic will always have a lag due to kicking down a gear and of course, being a slushbox and running a TC.

[VVT-i Owns]

i don't notice lag??

[Tony the Tiger]

Originally posted by VVT-i Owns
i don't notice lag??

Convert it to mechanical throttle and feel the difference. How are you going to notice lag when you haven't even experienced response before?