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Old 06-27-2009, 11:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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02 LE Issue, need some guidance

Noob here, just picked a 2002 out of our towing lot, we got stuck with the car and finally got title. Decent looking enough but wont run. Turns over, but turns really easily, much like a toasted timing belt would, but I believe this has timing chain. So it sat in the impound lot for about 8 months, was abandoned along side the road so we have no clue what the issue is. I put it in my garage hooked the jump pack to the batter and turned it over for a few seconds, then a puddle of oil on the floor.

Any advice is appreciated. I have done this about a dozen times with various cars over the years, but this is my first toyota.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds like it blew a rod.
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My first thought as well, time to roll under there and find out. I assume the little 4 banger is fairly easy to pull out of there, no? Last engine swap I did was 76 ford v8, been awhile.
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There are Toyota factory service manuals stickied at the top of the Camry forum over at AutomotiveForums.com. If it did throw a rod and you have to pull the engine, the manual will be invaluable. Download the generation 5 service manual.

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Old 06-27-2009, 12:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks a bunch, will go download it right now.
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Not a rod, its timing chain. The oil came from the oil filter it wasnt even on a turn, lost about three quarts and it still has a some in it. I turned the crank and each piston is moving up and down. So I pulled the valve cover and the front cam sprocket bolt was sheared and the sprocket was jammed in there. The teeth on the rear cam sprocket are toast as well, however the chain is in tact.

Any idea what could of happened here? Chain isnt broke, yet cam gear bolt sheared off in the cam. Cam wasnt froze up in there either. I took some pictures, go here

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I broke the gear getting it out, so that chunk out of the gear is my fault.
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From the picture, it looks like the cam bolt came loose, unless you had done that. I would also check the tensioner, it may have allowed the chain to loosen.

Either way, you need to get ALL of those shavings out of the engine. Keep as many from entering the head as possible, flush the rest out with oil. I would pull the pan as well afterwards and install a magnetic oil plug.

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The rest of the bolt is still in the cam. It also busted the timing chain cover on the back side where it bolts to the head at the top, but also busted the hole where that bolt threads into on the head itself. So if I get a new timing chain cover I wont be able to bolt it on at the back/top and I imagine that would leak. At this point I am thinking of just getting a used head. Found one on my local craigslist for $40, just waiting for the guy to email me back.
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Sounds like you have your answer, strange as it may seem. If that bolt is broken, then that's why you have that mess. It is an odd situation, but I have seen similar before. Studs that hold the belt tensioner on Nissan VG30 motors tend to snap, the belt loses tension and the engine is toast (interference motor).

How many miles are on this motor? May be worth looking for a used one if it isn't too steep. Look at car-part.com, online junkyard...
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Old 06-27-2009, 06:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Not sure, battery is dead and when I had the jumper pack on it I forgot to look at the odo. I will do that and then try to determine what to do. I was trying to get it running for the least amount of $$ I could, so I could sort of guage whether I wanted to keep it or not. At this point I got zero dollars in it, we didnt get paid the original tow bill of $110, but other than that literally got nothing in it. I thought if I put a used head and new timing chain/gears on it and got it running then go from there. Its got a few little dings here and there, interior is amazingly clean, windshield is cracked, but no rust and fairly new tires.
Thanks for all the help and insight on here!!
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