5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.
I drive an '07 Camry Hybrid (the wife actually is the primary driver) which came stock with LED stop/tail lights. The TCH had a different configuration than non-hybrid Camrys in that we had no inner ruby lens - it was all an clear unit for backup lamp.
The other day I noticed on an XLE they had inner/outer LED treatments.
Just visited the Toyota website and the specs look like LEDs are standard for all Camrys?
Still can't figure out why so few manufacturers don't have amber or ruby turn signals in LED. Virtually every commercial truck/bus has 'em.
__________________ '10 TCH,Magnetic Grey Metallic, Moonroof, Heated Leather and NAV '92 LE I4, 165k original miles, Silver Taupe Metallic, Moonroof, ABS
Yeah, all the new Camry's have changed their head lights, tail lights, and lower bumper. I like LED lights, but I think their design for the new head lights and tail lights are ugly. Lights should look simple and clean and not have as much shit designed into it. Also, I think it really looks bad when one LED has burnt out. (rare but it does happen) You'll have to replace the whole light assembly to fix it.
I think the 2010 LED tails absolutely, completely stink.
I have no problem with LED taillights -- that's not the problem. "The problem" is how the turn signal is now a red conventional light. To trade the old amber turn signal for the new red one is just utter rubbish. They may as well trade the disc brakes for drums, for gosh sakes.
This is one of the worst mid-generation "upgrades" I've ever seen. I think the ultra-boring "two horizontal rows of big LED bulbs" is about as lame as LED tails can get, and to lose amber turn signals in the deal is just ridiculous.
Finally, is there some impossibility with making LED turn signals? I don't think I have EVER seen amber LED turn signals -- does anything have them? Maybe Prius does, buth I'm not sure about that. All I can tell you is that I want amber turn signals, LED or not. Without them, any LED treatment is just a "gimmick."
LEDs cost more to implement than incandescent bulbs due to cost of the emitter and the circuitry needed to run them. While you can run 12V through some of the emitters, you have to make a circuit to limit the amount of current you feed them. Then comes the issue of heatsinks because LEDs can dim due to the amount of heat they put out if there aren't heatsinks to cool them.
On commercial vehicles which can cost well over $100k each, my guess is that they use LEDs to to reduce the amount of maintenance required to keep the vehicle ready for service. In these cases, the buyer may consider that the upfront costs of having LED lamps will yield long term savings in terms of labor costs because the LED modules last a lot longer than incandescent modules.
Now for personal vehicles where most people are not going to make this type of consideration and will be concerned with up front costs of the vehicle LEDs don't make sense because even a few hundred dollars can that model less competitive. Because many buyers aren't going to care if they have LEDs or incandescent bulbs and could care less as long as it works.
Finally, is there some impossibility with making LED turn signals? I don't think I have EVER seen amber LED turn signals -- does anything have them? Maybe Prius does, buth I'm not sure about that. All I can tell you is that I want amber turn signals, LED or not. Without them, any LED treatment is just a "gimmick."
There are a few cars that have had amber LED rear turn signals. The last year or two of the Cadillac Catera (2000ish) had them. A few BMW 3 series versions had them a few years ago too. (higher-end) convertibles I think) I've never seen them as standard equipment on any other passenger vehicle or light truck- although if someone else can think of any feel free to add.
I've seen a particular line of MB with at least front amber LED turn signals. Other than commercial vehicles (buses in particular) the amber LED rear signals are rare.
I don't mind a ruby stop/ruby turn on the rear as long as it's distinctive - flash on/flash off rather than a dim/bright sequence. The Cadillac DeVilles did a pretty good job with their Honeywell units.
I see LEDs are starting to creep into headlamp design now.
They'll be mainstream in another 7-10 years as development/production costs come down.
__________________ '10 TCH,Magnetic Grey Metallic, Moonroof, Heated Leather and NAV '92 LE I4, 165k original miles, Silver Taupe Metallic, Moonroof, ABS
I've seen a particular line of MB with at least front amber LED turn signals. Other than commercial vehicles (buses in particular) the amber LED rear signals are rare.
hey I was just reading on your post after my post and wanted to let you know in Canada, the bus we have from Nova ever since i think 2005 or maybe 2006 have LED rear signals, it stands out:P http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Nova_Bus_LFS
hey I was just reading on your post after my post and wanted to let you know in Canada, the bus we have from Nova ever since i think 2005 or maybe 2006 have LED rear signals, it stands out:P http://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Nova_Bus_LFS
anyhoo, cheers!
Trucks, buses, semi should have LEDs as a standard because its brighter than halogen bulbs and less maintenance. No bulb outs and rarely does it need to be replaced. Not to mention, LEDs consumes a lot less power. This is great for those transportation buses that run 18 hours a day or what not or for truckers who travel from state to state and live out of their semi 10 months out of the year.
None. However, all you need is Eagle Eye LED taillights and put you own LED turn signals with the addition of load resistors or LED flasher module.
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hey so if i'm understanding this correctly, you need to change the flasher module which is located behind the speedometer console? or add load resistors which should be fixed parallel to the LED that you install? Just wondering why you switched to load resistors? I read somewhere that it isn't one of the best option because you end up drawing the same current load? Maybe that guy is wrong, let me know aite?
Trucks, buses, semi should have LEDs as a standard because its brighter than halogen bulbs and less maintenance. No bulb outs and rarely does it need to be replaced. Not to mention, LEDs consumes a lot less power. This is great for those transportation buses that run 18 hours a day or what not or for truckers who travel from state to state and live out of their semi 10 months out of the year.
it's pretty cool for them, i've also noticed that there are a lot of truck and buses that start to have xenon light as headlight LOL, that's what I told my friend (who doesn't have HID yet) that you know it's time to get HID when most of the trucks have them!
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