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Old 09-09-2009, 10:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 Factory Antenna to Aftermarket Radio

I noticed that the 2010 Camry Le factory radio has 2 antennas plugged into it. They run back and are the upper portion of what looks like the rear defroster. My question is, i haven't found any adapter yet for connecting these 2 antennas into an aftermarket head unit (specifically the Pioneer deh-p6100bt).

Has anyone come across this issue and can share how they dealt with it? As far I as can find there's only 1 spot to plug in an antenna for aftermarkets.
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I noticed that the 2010 Camry Le factory radio has 2 antennas plugged into it. They run back and are the upper portion of what looks like the rear defroster. My question is, i haven't found any adapter yet for connecting these 2 antennas into an aftermarket head unit (specifically the Pioneer deh-p6100bt).

Has anyone come across this issue and can share how they dealt with it? As far I as can find there's only 1 spot to plug in an antenna for aftermarkets.
One is the amplified signal from the antenna, the other is for the amplifier power.

Correction!

Both of these connections are antenna signal, a dual antenna for auto diversity, eliminates fading.
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Ooh

Ooh so the defroster style antenna isn't passive, it needs a little power in order to work? ..I guess that would explain what the gray box is that's behind the side panel.

Nice, so I might not need yet another part for this radio install.
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Check out the post by mlong212:
DIY: 2010 Camry LE Radio Removal

He has some very good photos on the first post. It shows the blue connector assembled and pulled apart.

Currently on page two.
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Second thoughts

Thanks, here's a link to the photo album: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

I'll have to look at the pin outs now. Cause the aftermarket doesn't putout power for an antenna does it? Sorry I haven't researched this part yet.
There are 2 black, and one orange. the orange not connecting to the head unit, rather it runs through to the gray box in the back (shown in a different pic).
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Yeah, i got nothing

Well i found this pinout sheet (pdf) for the factory wire harness:
http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/Toyota-Wiring.pdf

But I'm still at a loss for what to do with the antenna. Even if 1 of the 2 is for power, there's not a slot for it to go into... unless I'm supposed to solder on another wire to the round pin and connect that to the aftermarket head unit's wiring harness.. maybe?
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Well i found this pinout sheet (pdf) for the factory wire harness:
http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/Toyota-Wiring.pdf

But I'm still at a loss for what to do with the antenna. Even if 1 of the 2 is for power, there's not a slot for it to go into... unless I'm supposed to solder on another wire to the round pin and connect that to the aftermarket head unit's wiring harness.. maybe?
Here are the manuals:

http://www.camrystuff.com/

This is where I find what I need, then I verify by double checking the the actual points in the harness (meter, scope & so forth). I am looking into the problem you are having with the antenna amplifier power source. I am trying to locate a converter for you.
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Well i found this pinout sheet (pdf) for the factory wire harness:
http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/Toyota-Wiring.pdf

But I'm still at a loss for what to do with the antenna. Even if 1 of the 2 is for power, there's not a slot for it to go into... unless I'm supposed to solder on another wire to the round pin and connect that to the aftermarket head unit's wiring harness.. maybe?
The correct connections for the power to the antenna amplifier for a premium receiver is:
F26 is a 20 pin connector.
F26 pin 13 is +10v to 14v (ORANGE)
F26 pin 20 is GND. (BROWN)


For a standard receiver:
F6 is a 10 pin connector.
F6 pin 8 orange + 10v to +14v Amplifier power.
F6 pin 7 brown GND
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Well i found this pinout sheet (pdf) for the factory wire harness:
http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/Toyota-Wiring.pdf

But I'm still at a loss for what to do with the antenna. Even if 1 of the 2 is for power, there's not a slot for it to go into... unless I'm supposed to solder on another wire to the round pin and connect that to the aftermarket head unit's wiring harness.. maybe?

Corrections made to last post (#8) made this post into another error. Please ignore.
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Well that website camrystuff.com certainly has almost every drawing needed to make the car from scratch! LOL, but i couldn't find the part about the 2 wires shown below at the head unit and at their termination at the back. The pin outs are important, but maybe you can see why i'm confused as to what to do with the below images.. mind you they fit into the factory, but that doesn't help with the new pioneer head unit.


Antenna and something else


Plugged into Factory unit. This portion seemed to be missing from the diagrams i found so far


Their final resting place, the orange seems to be the power from the pinout. But what is returning?
Everything except the crucial wire harness is being delivered friday, but i only want to take the car apart 1 final time you know?
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This subject has come up in a number of threads in the last 2+ years for GEN6 vehicles.......
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Well that website camrystuff.com certainly has almost every drawing needed to make the car from scratch! LOL, but i couldn't find the part about the 2 wires shown below at the head unit and at their termination at the back. The pin outs are important, but maybe you can see why i'm confused as to what to do with the below images.. mind you they fit into the factory, but that doesn't help with the new pioneer head unit.


Antenna and something else

Both of these connections are antenna signal, a dual antenna for auto diversity, eliminates fading. If the replacement radio has only one antenna port, use the one that fits, tie the other one back to the harness.


Plugged into Factory unit. This portion seemed to be missing from the diagrams i found so far


Their final resting place, the orange seems to be the power from the pinout. But what is returning?

The return is through the car body, and antenna coax shield.

Everything except the crucial wire harness is being delivered friday, but i only want to take the car apart 1 final time you know?
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Lightbulb Did they think of everything?!

So what your saying is.. Toyota has actually made it a lot easier to install a different head unit by giving you 2 sizes of connectors to choose from? This is crazyness!
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So what your saying is.. Toyota has actually made it a lot easier to install a different head unit by giving you 2 sizes of connectors to choose from? This is crazyness!
No

Original concept was:
Both of these connections are antenna signal, a dual antenna for auto diversity, eliminates fading.
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This is a question, I have not has the experience. Thanks for reminding.
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