Front Wheels jumping on take off - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

cboyd213 · 10-25-2009, 07:44 PM

I have a 07 Camry SE V6
17in factory wheels with Hankook Optimo H426 tires

I just purchased the Camry used about 6 weeks ago here in louisville, ky
Currently no mods

If I lay into the gas on the take off the front end will jump over and over till I let off. sometimes salming back down very hard.

I noticed that the driver side tires are facing a different way then the passenger side tires.

Can that cause that?
Thanks for your help

Redline_Me · 10-25-2009, 07:50 PM

That's wheel hop, the tires aren't braking loose, they are just gripping. TC contributes to it as well. I suggest you stop doing it, you could snap an axle.

Redline_Me · 10-25-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by djkor

Just keep practising on your launches. The suspension setup contributes more to this than the traction control does by the way.

I would define it more as axle tramp than wheel hop though. Just by their slight differences.

Oops forgot to mention the suspension. We generally refer to it as wheel hop, so i just kept it simple. You're 100% correct though.

cboyd213 · 10-25-2009, 08:04 PM

Thanks for your post
I don't think this car has traction control
I own a 03 camry xle and a 03 corrolla and they don't do this
I'm going to take it to pep boys to have the tires rebalenced and 2 of the tires turned around correctly and see if it fixes the problem.

***Punks_Not_Dead5*** · 10-25-2009, 08:06 PM

Tires have a lot to do with it as well..most all season tires are pretty hard so you will spin and get wheel hop. Just don't slam you foot into the gas...ease on it...

cboyd213 · 10-25-2009, 08:10 PM

I forgot to mention that it hops real bad if the roads are wet

DJV · 10-25-2009, 08:11 PM

maybe they put a v10 in your car instead of the v6 and its RWD instead of FWD

Redline_Me · 10-25-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJV

maybe they put a v10 in your car instead of the v6 and its RWD instead of FWD

HA HA HA. NO!!!

Pawel062 · 10-25-2009, 08:30 PM

the problem with the camry v6 is we just have so much torque going to the front wheels. we haven't seen a family sedan this powerful since the muscle car era. remember in 07 the camry was #2 or #3 fastest car for under 30K or something like that.

xpeed · 10-25-2009, 09:39 PM

my wheel hops when it's raining while I start to accelerate from a stop. It's just trying to get a grip, but if it's hopping, like everyone else said, let go of the gas.

***Yazovets*** · 10-25-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cboyd213

Thanks for your post
I don't think this car has traction control
I own a 03 camry xle and a 03 corrolla and they don't do this
I'm going to take it to pep boys to have the tires rebalenced and 2 of the tires turned around correctly and see if it fixes the problem.

I'm pretty sure your car has traction control. I think Toyota calls it VSC or something like that. My 2007 SE V6 has it, and I don't recall specifically paying extra for it.

The main reason why your 03 Camry and 03 Corolla don't exhibit wheel hop is because they don't develop as much torque in the front wheels.

Rebalancing your tires will do nothing. That is only necessary if you mount a fresh set, or you experience a pattern of thumping noises at high speeds combined with pulsating vibrations in your steering wheel.

sxe-10 · 10-26-2009, 02:19 AM

I used to get it when I was still running all season tires. Now I running some grippy summer tires and it only hops when the road is wet. Its not a major problem, just annoying if anything. The 07 4cyl's dont come with vsc unless you get the bluetooth, moonroof package.

BlackCamSe · 10-26-2009, 10:43 AM

i dont get wheel hop with my Camry. The tires just break loose and squeel like hell if i dont ease onto it.

***darksparkz*** · 10-26-2009, 10:56 AM

Take a picture of the front two tires, to make sure they are in the right direction and side.

You could get wider/stickier tires to prevent that. I used to have slight wheel hop and tires squeel with the stock 215 tires, but after getting some summer 235 tires, no tire squeak or anything, not even VSC turning on, just a launch.

***ekpolk*** · 10-26-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Yazovets

I'm pretty sure your car has traction control. I think Toyota calls it VSC or something like that. My 2007 SE V6 has it, and I don't recall specifically paying extra for it.

The main reason why your 03 Camry and 03 Corolla don't exhibit wheel hop is because they don't develop as much torque in the front wheels.

Rebalancing your tires will do nothing. That is only necessary if you mount a fresh set, or you experience a pattern of thumping noises at high speeds combined with pulsating vibrations in your steering wheel.

No, VSC (vehicle skid control) and traction control are different (though related) features. TC does no more than retard the throttle when the computer senses that the drive wheels are spinning. VSC is a more "advanced" feature that tries to keep the car under control when it begins to oversteer or understeer so badly that you're at risk of losing control. VSC can use the features of TC to retard the throttle, but it also has the ability to selectively apply one brake at a time to whichever corner of the car needs it in order to keep the car on the line that the computer "believes" the driver is attempting to maintain. VSC is very effective in "saving" you, but you must keep in mind that it can not trump the rules of physics. If you put your car into a situation in which the tires simply can't keep you on the road, you will careen into the trees as VSC is still valiantly trying to save your foolish butt. Anyway, VSC and TC are not the same thing (but both are tremendously valuable features).

Now, for whatever reason (OK, we all know, it's spelled m-o-n-e-y), Toyota has deviated from the course they were steering (pun sort of intended) a few years back, and now, a lot of cars for which VSC and TC should be STANDARD, are back to making it optional. My wife's otherwise very nice 07 Avalon XLS has neither TC, nor VSC. I tried to wave her off of this car, but she would not retreat from her "I just love that burgundy color" argument. . . It matters not to her that if you stomp the gas in this car, it will rip the tires free of the pavement, and hop-spin them all day long, if you persist in this foolishness. In my opinion, BOTH TC and VSC are utterly essential in the V-6 Camry and the Avalon. These are ABSURDLY (but pleasantly) over torqued and over powered cars that need some mechanism to save their poor tires from over-enthusiastic drivers. Coincidentally, I frisked the Avalon around some last night, with the windows open, and each time I stopped, the smell of melting/burning rubber was overpoweringly unmistakable.