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markman · 10-31-2009, 10:21 AM

Has anyone had any experience with T-SB-0089-09 for 2007 Camrys with the 2GR-FE (V6) engine?

March 17, 2009 TCM Calibration: Enhancement to Shifting Performance and Smoothness.
New Calibration ID 895363301400

Recalibrate Transmission Control Module
R & R ATM

I've read many threads on here and this appears to be a newer TSB specifically for the 2007 than any I've seen mentioned. It seems like there isn't much agreement on the older TSB's working.

I just got an early 2007 Camry and the more I drive it the more it drives me crazy. It flares sometimes over 1000 rpm the first time out, but more noticeable is how hard the shifts are compared my old ES300. And really strange is when decelerating as the car drops to about 30mph, it seems to drop a gear and you feel a mild engine braking and kills any kind of long coasting to a stop light.

***JohnGD*** · 10-31-2009, 12:32 PM

You can't fix a hardware problem with a software update. The real solution is for Toyota to put in a rebuilt/new transmission. They did that under warranty when a software update didn't work. Consumer Reports dropped their recommendation for the V6 for exactly this problem and they said it.

Looks like the previous owner did a smart thing getting rid of it. I hope you are still in the used car exchange period. I'm just not a fan of the newer Aisin U-series transmissions. I think they're clunkers.

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Originally Posted by markman

Has anyone had any experience with T-SB-0089-09 for 2007 Camrys with the 2GR-FE (V6) engine?

March 17, 2009 TCM Calibration: Enhancement to Shifting Performance and Smoothness.
New Calibration ID 895363301400

Recalibrate Transmission Control Module
R & R ATM

I've read many threads on here and this appears to be a newer TSB specifically for the 2007 than any I've seen mentioned. It seems like there isn't much agreement on the older TSB's working.

I just got an early 2007 Camry and the more I drive it the more it drives me crazy. It flares sometimes over 1000 rpm the first time out, but more noticeable is how hard the shifts are compared my old ES300. And really strange is when decelerating as the car drops to about 30mph, it seems to drop a gear and you feel a mild engine braking and kills any kind of long coasting to a stop light.

***Yazovets*** · 10-31-2009, 12:54 PM

That TSB is useless.

The transmission of my 2007 Camry SE V6 died at around 47000KM and I had a new unit put in under warranty.

This new one still flares although not as badly, and at different shift points. I complained and the dealer supposedly "updated the ECU mappings" or something of the sort but the tranny still flares sometimes.

I've got about 83000KM on the car now and I hope that if this tranny dies, it dies within 100000KM so that I can still claim a third tranny under the powertrain warranty.

Needless to say, when I replace this Camry hopefully in 9-12 months, I will not be buying another Toyota or Lexus using this transmission no matter how nice the car is otherwise.

I, as well as any other Camry V6 owner, would have correctly expected that the best selling family sedan on this continent would be free of such silly mechanical problems. Alas, we were proven wrong.

markman · 11-02-2009, 07:56 PM

Given that Toyota introduced this TSB in March of 2009, superseding some previous ones, I thought this programming might be more effective. It costs them every time they introduce a new bulletin, so I would assume there is some reason for it.

BoxesandLines · 11-08-2009, 10:13 AM

I had my car in for 30K checkup last week and they applied an update for the flaring issues. I assume this was the one they applied. The update seems to have placated the transmission flares for now. The main problem I was irritated about was the hard downshift to 4 in stop and go traffic. The flares never affected driving performance. The hard downshift certainly could put me in a precarious position though.

1956kiteboarder · 11-08-2009, 12:37 PM

My 2008 camry v6 SE now has 28,000 miles on it....no flare, but i CAN NOT stand the way the transmission
unreliably downshift to a lower gear when I step on the accelerator...

I wish toyota would be more forth comming about what the tsb actually does.

sdrone · 11-09-2009, 01:40 PM

Wait a minute. There are 2007 and 2008 Camrys that downshift?

Wow.

I'd give good money for my Camry to downshift. I love slowing down in traffic or in the city, then needing to accelerate and waiting 3s to 5s while the transmission thinks about it.

markman · 11-10-2009, 07:21 AM

So I'm not the only one that notices the down shifting thing, too? Has anyone noticed the downshift at 30mph that gives a bit of engine breaking? It's like having someone else in the car taking over the controls. As it decelerates, at about 32mph, the engine steps up to about 1600rpm and that kills any coasting you might be used to doing, plus it makes everybody's head bob a bit.

I've also had it do odd things hanging in gear way too long when cold and just mildly accelerating. It just wants to stay in 1st or 2nd (I can't tell with all the gears it has yet) at it takes it to redline with my foot like 1/8th of the way down.

Twice I've pulled out and it as it shifted, it just seemed to go dead for 2-3 seconds. Scared the crap out of me and now I'm paranoid to pull into traffic.

Mine's in the shop today to have the test drive it and probably reprogram it.

workerant · 11-10-2009, 07:41 AM

I think I got this TSB.. it does improve a tiny bit.. or at least in my case it happen less.

I got rid of the car though, my last straw was the spitting oil feature.

1956kiteboarder · 11-10-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by markman

So I'm not the only one that notices the down shifting thing, too? Has anyone noticed the downshift at 30mph that gives a bit of engine breaking? It's like having someone else in the car taking over the controls. As it decelerates, at about 32mph, the engine steps up to about 1600rpm and that kills any coasting you might be used to doing, plus it makes everybody's head bob a bit.

I've also had it do odd things hanging in gear way too long when cold and just mildly accelerating. It just wants to stay in 1st or 2nd (I can't tell with all the gears it has yet) at it takes it to redline with my foot like 1/8th of the way down.

Twice I've pulled out and it as it shifted, it just seemed to go dead for 2-3 seconds. Scared the crap out of me and now I'm paranoid to pull into traffic.

Mine's in the shop today to have the test drive it and probably reprogram it.

Are you taking about a V6 Camry? Sounds like a 4cyl model problem.....

markman · 11-10-2009, 12:58 PM

Yes, it's definitely the V6. When the transmission gets out the way (straight line constant acceleration), the thing is wickedly fast, but on real streets, it's scarey. Are you telling me that yours doesn't doesn't down shift at 30mph? Mine is an early 2007, so there might not be many people with software as old as what I've got.

njerald · 11-10-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1956kiteboarder

Are you taking about a V6 Camry? Sounds like a 4cyl model problem.....

Of course he's talking about a V6....

sdrone · 11-10-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by markman

... Are you telling me that yours doesn't doesn't down shift at 30mph? Mine is an early 2007, so there might not be many people with software as old as what I've got.

I got mine in March 2007. The transmission is my only real problem with the car. If I go fast enough on a surface street that it gets into 6th, it doesn't seem to downshift unless I'm at a stoplight or I push the accelerator pretty hard.

If I'm in traffic doing say, 60, and traffic slows down, then speeds back up. I have to floor it to get it to drop a couple of gears.

It does sometimes downshift, but it's not consistent. Though to be honest, I've gotten used to it and only really get frustrated when I need to move into traffic.

workerant · 11-10-2009, 06:24 PM

sdrone, the 6th gear kick in at around 45mph if you accelerate extremely slow. So when you decelerate and speed is still above 45mph, your car is still likely in higher gear. If you floor it of course the car will lower the gear to give you power.

Anyway, the problem I had was when decelerating from highway speed to around 30mph or 25mph it create a drag like I am pressing on the brake and than certainly let go.

sdrone · 11-10-2009, 07:49 PM

My car stays in 6th well below 45mph. Perhaps as low as 30 mph. And it gets into 6th gear well below 45 mph too, I'd guess.

Flooring it does make it shift gears, but that's after a 3 or 5 second wait, and then you have to wait while it shifts twice.

Anyway. None of the TSBs seem to fix it, and I usually avoid situations where it could kill me.