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I'm assuming that traction control isn't just a software thing, but also involves hardware? That is, there's no way to put a "DIY VSC" into a Gen 6 Camry?
Last edited by Tigerotor77W; 12-24-2009 at 10:21 PM.
I'm assuming that traction control isn't just a software thing, but also involves hardware? That is, there's no way to put a "DIY VSC" into a Gen 6 Camry?
Why bother, four cylinder Camry are so stable and easy to control, even at the limit. It'll understeer and spin the wheels a bit in slippery conditions or when pushed hard but the extra weight and long/ wide wheelbase seems to prevent the car becoming unstable and sliding around like a small car does. Now my old Corolla, that was scary.
Why bother, four cylinder Camry are so stable and easy to control, even at the limit. It'll understeer and spin the wheels a bit in slippery conditions or when pushed hard but the extra weight and long/ wide wheelbase seems to prevent the car becoming unstable and sliding around like a small car does. Now my old Corolla, that was scary.
Fair point. I asked mostly for what darksparkz mentioned. I'm curious how much TC would help. I saw an AWD car (Lexus GS300? I think?) get stuck today (high-centered), and it was completely helpless. Front wheels spun, dug out some snow, then all four wheels spun. Originally I was thinking that Subaru > FWD with TC > FWD, but seeing that today... either it was the perfect storm (pun intended) or the difference in snow navigation capability between the three isn't that great.
Thanks for the input. Does anyone know how much TC helps in the snow (I mean more for getting unstuck/staying unstuck more than for staying on the road)?
I thought the TC was also able to direct power to whichever of the two wheels had more grip -- or, specifically, it'd brake the wheel that had less grip so power would go to the other wheel?
Why bother, four cylinder Camry are so stable and easy to control, even at the limit. It'll understeer and spin the wheels a bit in slippery conditions or when pushed hard but the extra weight and long/ wide wheelbase seems to prevent the car becoming unstable and sliding around like a small car does. Now my old Corolla, that was scary.
Just because the 4-banger Camry is underpowered doesn't mean it doesn't need traction control of some sort.
You're right that the long wheelbase prevents spinning. Even when I tried to spin my Camry in a parking lot I just couldn't. However, VSC is a very useful feature when you try to go from a standstill on a bad winter road.
Even with winter tires, the performance is dismal.
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The wheel that is slipping will have the brake applied and the throttle will be regulated down to allow the braking to be reduced and keep the vehicle on a straight path.
The wheel that is slipping will have the brake applied and the throttle will be regulated down to allow the braking to be reduced and keep the vehicle on a straight path.
Agreed.
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I really wanted to go for some snow driving yesterday or today, but it was a little too much... I mentioned in another thread that I saw an AWD Lexus get stuck and a Forester have issues, so I doubt my little Camry could've plowed her way through the 10" drifts on her own. And then to tell whoever, if anyone, stopped to help that "I was just trying to see how she handles in the snow" -- heh -- and only to go back and try it again? Yeah, not so much.
The wheel that is slipping will have the brake applied and the throttle will be regulated down to allow the braking to be reduced and keep the vehicle on a straight path.
Do you know for a fact that, that's the system our cars use? Because applying the brakes by using the ABS sensors is not the only way TC works, some cars cut power to the wheel that is losing grip.
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