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Old 02-25-2010, 02:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 HELP PLEASE Brakes squealing

Hey guys i was wondering if somone can give me some advice on what to do i had my brakes changed a little while ago on my gen 6 but everyone morning or if my car sits for a few hours and i reverse the car and slightly press the pedal it squeals very loud ive bin back to the mechanic many times and have left my car there so he can test it but to no success so im left with the option of him just refunding me and having me go to toyota or where i choose and the brand hes using is lazer ceramics what im thinking is i will have him refund me but i dont know if i should go to toyota just so i dont have the chance of squealing or if you guys know of a brand of breaks i can buy and do them with my self but i do not want to be stuck with the noise if i do them unless i can figure out a solutions please help i did a search but didnt find exactly what im looking for sorry for starting a new thread i just need this taken care of and i dont know where to turn.
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Make sure torque specs are correct for caliper bolts as well as the larger 17mm ones. Make sure there's sufficient grease on the pad's shims. Make sure the caliper pins are actually greased properly as well inside the boot.

Is it a loud groan, or a squealing?
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Perhaps you could rephrase the description of the problem and the possible solutions you have already attempted after you come down from the Speed you apparently ingested. Whew. Remember now, the period can be your friend.
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Perhaps you could rephrase the description of the problem and the possible solutions you have already attempted after you come down from the Speed you apparently ingested. Whew. Remember now, the period can be your friend.
LOL.


That was the longest sentence I have ever read as well.
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Buy the latest OEM rear pads.............
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A fellow TN member recently replaced using performance Hawk HPS himself the first time. Quiet. Akebono ProAct is great for normal driving. Some of Toyota's pads are Akebonos. (AK xxx-xxx FF) markings. They also use cheaper NBK pads which I'd avoid.

http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/index.asp

Also, the hardware should be properly cleaned and lubed. But if its quiet before and noisy after replacement, then you kinda know.


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Hey guys i was wondering if somone can give me some advice on what to do i had my brakes changed a little while ago on my gen 6 but everyone morning or if my car sits for a few hours and i reverse the car and slightly press the pedal it squeals very loud ive bin back to the mechanic many times and have left my car there so he can test it but to no success so im left with the option of him just refunding me and having me go to toyota or where i choose and the brand hes using is lazer ceramics what im thinking is i will have him refund me but i dont know if i should go to toyota just so i dont have the chance of squealing or if you guys know of a brand of breaks i can buy and do them with my self but i do not want to be stuck with the noise if i do them unless i can figure out a solutions please help i did a search but didnt find exactly what im looking for sorry for starting a new thread i just need this taken care of and i dont know where to turn.
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Make sure torque specs are correct for caliper bolts as well as the larger 17mm ones. Make sure there's sufficient grease on the pad's shims. Make sure the caliper pins are actually greased properly as well inside the boot.

Is it a loud groan, or a squealing?
Well i dont know exactly but i think they where torque to specs and probably if i ask he will tell me he did and ive had the shims replaced and greased couple times already and its a loud squealing only in the mornings or if my car sits for a while
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Perhaps you could rephrase the description of the problem and the possible solutions you have already attempted after you come down from the Speed you apparently ingested. Whew. Remember now, the period can be your friend.
haha sorry about that im just trying to figure this out but was in a hurry.(period) Haha I've had the rotors cleaned the shims lubed then after no luck replaced the back pads and shims maby worked for a day then brought it back lubed cleaned again nothing just dunno what else to try.
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Buy the latest OEM rear pads.............
hmm will me having two types of brake pads make them wear weird?
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A fellow TN member recently replaced using performance Hawk HPS himself the first time. Quiet. Akebono ProAct is great for normal driving. Some of Toyota's pads are Akebonos. (AK xxx-xxx FF) markings. They also use cheaper NBK pads which I'd avoid.

http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/index.asp

Also, the hardware should be properly cleaned and lubed. But if its quiet before and noisy after replacement, then you kinda know.
So do you think the problem is with the pads he used i originally wanted akebono pads was going to order them from rock auto but he told me his pads were just as good (lazer ceramics from napa i believe). Im just worried if i do buy new pads and do them my self the squealing will continue and about your last comment i've had them cleaned, lubed and replaced shimes plus new rear pads dont know what else to try.
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That was the longest sentence I have ever read as well.
>:/ i feel like im in english class or something haha.
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The purpose of that English class was to, among other things, teach you to communicate using a common language. English is a very robust language and its words are quite descriptive when used efficiently.
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Check that appropriate parts are lubed and everything is installed correctly

lube

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You need anti squeal lube on the BACK of the pad

Something like this

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/LCT-40300/?rtype=10

Also make sure the mechanic didn't double shim the pads, sometimes they stick the old Toyota shims back on when the new pads have a built in shim, that will cause a squeal.


The other thing to check is the brand of pad, cheap metalic pads generally squeal. Napa does not call theirs "lazer ceramics", they are called NAPA ULTRA PREMIUM BRAKE PARTS and they come in a ceramic flavor.

Sounds like maybe you got some cheap chinese pads.

If you want to replace them yourself, I had really good luck with the Monroe Ceramic brake pads from Amazon.com on my 2005. They now sell for around $35, but at the time I bought them, there was a $20 MIR, so I got them for $15. They are better than OEM in my opinion.
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The purpose of that English class was to, among other things, teach you to communicate using a common language. English is a very robust language and its words are quite descriptive when used efficiently.

ok whats your point this is a online forum not a English class
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Check that appropriate parts are lubed and everything is installed correctly

lube

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HBGKH4/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lp o-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000HBNUPE&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX 0DER&pf_rd_r=15X4TKRR2RB8J18NSC5E


You need anti squeal lube on the BACK of the pad

Something like this

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/LCT-40300/?rtype=10

Also make sure the mechanic didn't double shim the pads, sometimes they stick the old Toyota shims back on when the new pads have a built in shim, that will cause a squeal.


The other thing to check is the brand of pad, cheap metalic pads generally squeal. Napa does not call theirs "lazer ceramics", they are called NAPA ULTRA PREMIUM BRAKE PARTS and they come in a ceramic flavor.

Sounds like maybe you got some cheap chinese pads.

If you want to replace them yourself, I had really good luck with the Monroe Ceramic brake pads from Amazon.com on my 2005. They now sell for around $35, but at the time I bought them, there was a $20 MIR, so I got them for $15. They are better than OEM in my opinion.

yeah ive tried the anti squeak and lubed many times no success well they arnt napa brand he just purchased them from napa. i guess i will just switch to a different brand of pads hopfully that will solve my issue unless someone else has a suggestions about my brakes.
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