5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.
last week i pulled out the tranny from my 2002 v6 camry, because it would loose all gears, then move again, and this all accompanied with a metal grinding surring noise (exactly the same noise as a dry power steering)
the tranny mecanic didnt really find anything wrong with it, changed the filter and that was about it.
We put it back in, new oil etc, and the tranny worked like a dream, smooth powerful etc. for about 50 miles.
Then the error code p0770 showed up, didnt mind, reset the battery and kept going. another 30 miles error came back, didnt do anything about it. 5 miles later the exact same horrible metal grinding surring noise is back, and im back where i was just a few 100s bucks poorer and still with a broken car.
i need desperate help, no mecanic seems to know where it could come now, does the shift solenoid this kind of noise when damaged ?
i have the feeling that there is a problem with the oil cirulation, and the metal noise comes because something is running dry, without oil
about 160.000, but im almost sure that the tranny broke because i never changed the tranny oil or filter until the filter clogged up.
the car when cold now shift very badly and revs up to more then 3500rpm in first gear, when hot gets better, but the noise is always there, no matter if hot or cold.
please remember i just had the tranny out and fixed a week before, now i have the exact same problem, my thought is that when i put in the fresh oil, it was able to squeezo to all the passages, and the problem was gone.
Now that the oil has a few miles its viscosity may not be as at the beginning and therefore doesn't get tru the clogged passage anymore, causing some part to run dry and make the noise, how about that ?
When T-IV ATF gets old (> 15-30K miles severe/normal service) wear accelerates. If the filter is plugged up the ATF line pressure drops and clutch packs wear in no time.
I think you're looking at a complete replacement if gears are tearing themselves apart. I'd go to a local ATRA Transmission Rebuilder's Assoc member shop for evaluation:
I don't care much for Aisin U-series transmissions (like your U-140 series), I think they're clunkers. But 160K miles isn't too bad without maintenance. Hey, maybe I'll change my mind.
Quote:
Originally Posted by flo
about 160.000, but im almost sure that the tranny broke because i never changed the tranny oil or filter until the filter clogged up.
the car when cold now shift very badly and revs up to more then 3500rpm in first gear, when hot gets better, but the noise is always there, no matter if hot or cold.
please remember i just had the tranny out and fixed a week before, now i have the exact same problem, my thought is that when i put in the fresh oil, it was able to squeezo to all the passages, and the problem was gone.
Now that the oil has a few miles its viscosity may not be as at the beginning and therefore doesn't get tru the clogged passage anymore, causing some part to run dry and make the noise, how about that ?
This post dedicated to everyone who ever believed for 5 seconds, their car manufacturer when they told you the ATF "NEVER NEEDS TO BE CHANGED."...
+1
And in few more years, we'll see a ton more complaints like this because most gen6 owner got suckered into thinking that their WS fluid would last a lifetime. There are quite a few folks from other forums did the UOA on these Toyota WS snake oil at 40~60K miles and the result wasn't pretty, needless to say I'll be flushing this crap out of my 09 LE V6 at 30K miles...
__________________
2009 Toyota Camry LE V6
2005 Toyota Camry SE V6
Absolutely. Severe service 15K miles with filter. Normal service 30K miles with filter. (As Toyota mentioned on oil sludge issue, most people drive severe service). Cleanliness and fluid level accuracy are important. Of course, unless it's a 3-year leaser the owner doesn't care about. Then it's lifetime fill as far as the owner is concerned.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmightyCamry777
This post dedicated to everyone who ever believed for 5 seconds, their car manufacturer when they told you the ATF "NEVER NEEDS TO BE CHANGED."...
as i stated i had the tranny fixed last week because it was slipping gears and making a grinding noise.
i live in a primitive country with ripoff mechanics, as i said the mechanic was at least honest enough to tell me he didnt know what exactly caused the problem, and supposedly he changed a few gears, this didnt stop him from charging me tons of money.
i believe he only changed the tranny oil filter.
now we put tranny back in etc. works and runs fine
after 1 week the metal grinding noise came back, i thought the worst, but i thought ill check it out myself and removed again the tranny oil pan and the filter, and came out that THE FILTER WAS CLOGGED again.
cleaned up the filter with gasoline a few times, started the engine and it runs like new again, the metal noise is from some parts apparently running dry because the filter was blocking circulation.
so after all, i think the tranny was never broken in first place, the mechanic changed filter and that was it.
we will see how long it will last, and if running it dry a few miled did result in so mayor damage.
i have to say i did read the fact the tranny oil never has to be changed and i thought well thats some good stuff lets not do it.
it also says the shocks will last a life long, also not so sure about that.
if its the case and the tranny is fine, ill have to say that the v6 camry 2002 is a kickass car, with lots of power and very reliable, if you change your tranny oil
now we put tranny back in etc. works and runs fine
after 1 week the metal grinding noise came back, i thought the worst, but i thought ill check it out myself and removed again the tranny oil pan and the filter, and came out that THE FILTER WAS CLOGGED again.
Did you find that this "clogged" filter is NEW?
How could a new filter be clogged in 1 week time?
im guessing from the remaining dirt, it was only dust metal particles, but no larger pieces found, as i say lets see how long it will last, maybe there is some damage done, but so far so good
Didn't realize (or see) that you're in the Caribbeans. I think you found out first hand that there is no such a thing as a "lifetime" ATF or a lifetime filter.
I don't recommend cleaning the filter with gasoline. It should be a felt type filter that needs replacement. This is what's used at least in the US market:
Gasoline is a solvent, and it dilutes your ATF and reduces it's lubricating properties. Can you source the filter locally?
If necessary you might want to consider installing a Magnefine filter. But make sure it's install the right way or you'll cut off ATF flow from the cooler. You can find Wix ones too.
The AutoGuide.com network consists of the largest network of enthusiast-owned enthusiast-operated automotive communities.
AutoGuide.com provides the latest car reviews, auto show coverage, new car prices, and automotive news. The AutoGuide network operates more than 100 automotive forums where our users consult peers for shopping information and advice, and share opinions as a community.
ToyotaNation.com is an independent Toyota/Lexus enthusiast website. ToyotaNation.com is not sponsored by or in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. The Toyota, Lexus and Scion names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.
Linear Mode
