Clear lenses into halogen projector mode.

[molson.david]

Howdy everyone.
I have searched forum for answer, but all lights modes done on real HID projectors, not halogen.
I had 6000K conversion kit on my Camry for about a year. Light was much better than stock and I was happy. But after reading some treads on TN, I decided to swap stock Fresnel lenses and put clear instead.
I decided to go with TSX-R lenses. They a little smaller than stock, but I figured out how to put them into stock lens holder.
I tested them in garage using spare ballast and light bulb, result was exactly what I wanted-more light and now it was even whiter than before. Cut off line was clean and nice, same as factory-fine with me.
Also I moved projector assembly little forward using washers, put washers between assembly and holding it bracket. And I opened top shield little bit more, about 1/4” up from stock border.
When I completed second light and installed them I noticed difference very same moment I turned lights on: light field much brighter, wider and now surface 3’ away from bumper was lit too!
Only problem I got that,there is no defined/clean cut off. I got almost sharp cut off line only when car about 10’ away from wall, further-looks even worse than before, almost as reflector headlights. I got some blue shine above cut off, which I figured out normal, but why my cut off line not better than stock with Fresnel lenses and at higher distance it even worse? There is clear border between light-dark on ground only 3-4’ from bumper, far border and sides are blurry, not clear.
I like my light, even my wife, usually not sensitive to any modes, admired them very first time we went shopping after dark, but I wanted to have clean cut off too. Is it impossible with stock halogen bowls and conversion HID kit?

[ophamTastic]

if you use washers, dont you sacrifice defined cut-off line at farther distances? i dont completely recall, but you can check hidplanet.com when you have time.

[molson.david]

I looked on HID planet too.
I know about washers and cut-off,but my washers went between projector assembly and supporting frame-distance between light source,shield and lens did not change.Projector holder, shield and bowl were mounted together first,exactly like factory. My washers just moved bowl shield and lens forward for wider light filed,not restricted by shroud.

[ItsMeJon]

Why don't you just do a retrofit? lol If i had the courage to open my headlights or a extra set id do a retro.

[molson.david]

retrofit cost much more...can not afford it.

[ItsMeJon]

Originally Posted by molson.david

retrofit cost much more...can not afford it.

oh doesn't it cost like 150-200 for everything if you do it yourself. If the way the light is spread and vision is important to you id say that isnt a huge price to pay, but times are hard so i understand.

[molson.david]

oh doesn't it cost like 150-200 for everything if you do it yourself. If the way the light is spread and vision is important to you id say that isnt a huge price to pay, but times are hard so i understand.
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I'm nor sure about $200. projectors going to run 150,plus ballasts,light bulbs,it's not going to be less than 350 by my calculations.
maybe some day,for now i'm happy with what I got,only cut off disappointed me,but I hope I'll find way to fix that.

[badbadtz560]

if you stick the bulb in more you'll have a more defined cutoff. Placing a spacer w/ the bulb would distribute the light better... well atleast that's how it is on my fx-rs.. I was just playin with those earlier today.

yes projectors would run about 150ish but you'd use the same ballasts and you might wanna buy some good bulbs. I'd try morimotos, which run like 40ish for a pair? You'd have to pay 15 bux for the HID kit to d2s adapters to use your current ballasts... add in some shipping and you've blown about 200 bux + a lot of labor.

For some people it's worth it and some it's not. My friend runs stock on his camry and he drove w/ my fx-rs and didn't think there was anything special going on. If you're satisfied there's no reason to spend more money. Please do dim your squirrel spotters though. Not all kits glare badly like high beams, but it's less comfortable for other people

[Pawel062]

show me some pics of the output. ballasts, bulbs, and projectors come out to around 200-230 bucks if u do the retro urself.

sounds like installing the lense u might of changed the distance of lense to shield and that made it sharp up close but blurry at a distance. it should be opposite. i need more pics and i can get u fixed.

also i don't know how fx-r can't be special. they are nice and wide and have even distribution. and if u flick on the high beam then they should blow the mind. 55w would just make them insane.

[molson.david]

sounds like installing the lense u might of changed the distance of lense to shield and that made it sharp up close but blurry at a distance. it should be opposite. i need more pics and i can get u fixed.

sounds like you just answered my question.I was thinking about it,but I guess not enough.I did not added any washers,but because tsx-r lenses smaller and thinner than stock,they went deeper into holder,about 2mm,just enough to make "rainbow".

I didn't cover squirrel spotters,but I got excuse:I drove for a year with conversion kit and never got "blinked",plus my buddies checked it from all directions on different speed-it's not more blinding than average HID.And I like to see all road sighs clearly and sharp-will miss that for sure.In Dallas most roads got dividers or grass between opposite directions-probably helps too.
But I know what you talking about,seen idiots with purple HID in reflectors.
got coworker-low 90's accord with 12K conversion kit in it,of course no projectors-he don't wanna even listen anything about blinding other drivers- moron.


well,for now I'll play with halogen projectors.
Can someone tell me if I'll move lenses closer to cut off shield,or light bulb closer to cut off shield,how it gonna affect light?

oK.my cut off.no fogs turned on.
1nd -10-12' distance,angle view. look at two squares right next to the wall and two tulips next to bumper-they were not there before-my shield mode and so far I'm proud of it.

2rd-about 20' from wall.
glare not really bad,but I was not expecting any at all,so it came as surprise.

3st pic. I'm behind car,camera above car,car about 10-12' away from wall.










real retrofit is the next step,maybe,I'm thinking about it more and more.
can I really use my ballasts for real HID? they got different wattage and connectors-yes,no? wiring the same too?
if so,retrofit sounds even cheaper,i need projectors and light bulbs only.

[Pawel062]

see if adding a spacer between the front of the shield/bracket and the black lense holder helps with making the cutoff sharper. i believe moving it away will make it sharper. if not the go backwords and space the lense closer to the shield.

[ItsMeJon]

Originally Posted by Pawel062

show me some pics of the output. ballasts, bulbs, and projectors come out to around 200-230 bucks if u do the retro urself.

sounds like installing the lense u might of changed the distance of lense to shield and that made it sharp up close but blurry at a distance. it should be opposite. i need more pics and i can get u fixed.

also i don't know how fx-r can't be special. they are nice and wide and have even distribution. and if u flick on the high beam then they should blow the mind. 55w would just make them insane.

Thats what i thought they should only around 200ish if your do the work yourself. Sometimes you can get a really good deal on parts.

Originally Posted by molson.david

sounds like you just answered my question.I was thinking about it,but I guess not enough.I did not added any washers,but because tsx-r lenses smaller and thinner than stock,they went deeper into holder,about 2mm,just enough to make "rainbow".

I didn't cover squirrel spotters,but I got excuse:I drove for a year with conversion kit and never got "blinked",plus my buddies checked it from all directions on different speed-it's not more blinding than average HID.And I like to see all road sighs clearly and sharp-will miss that for sure.In Dallas most roads got dividers or grass between opposite directions-probably helps too.
But I know what you talking about,seen idiots with purple HID in reflectors.
got coworker-low 90's accord with 12K conversion kit in it,of course no projectors-he don't wanna even listen anything about blinding other drivers- moron.


well,for now I'll play with halogen projectors.
Can someone tell me if I'll move lenses closer to cut off shield,or light bulb closer to cut off shield,how it gonna affect light?

oK.my cut off.no fogs turned on.
1nd -10-12' distance,angle view. look at two squares right next to the wall and two tulips next to bumper-they were not there before-my shield mode and so far I'm proud of it.

2rd-about 20' from wall.
glare not really bad,but I was not expecting any at all,so it came as surprise.

3st pic. I'm behind car,camera above car,car about 10-12' away from wall.










real retrofit is the next step,maybe,I'm thinking about it more and more.
can I really use my ballasts for real HID? they got different wattage and connectors-yes,no? wiring the same too?
if so,retrofit sounds even cheaper,i need projectors and light bulbs only.

Actually you get more glare from white-blue because white refracts colors or somthing like that. Purple not to much glare ive noticed. I never bothered to cover my squirrel spotters either i like to see what people are doing inside their cars lol j/k. I vote you do a retrofit now that you have the help of the retro pro haha.

[ophamTastic]

since you have a kit already, retrofit wouldnt be as much. you can get some rx projectors that dont go for too much. i saw some for 95 shipped on hidplanet once. bulbs, you can get morimotos for 40 if you dont want to spend the 70 on phillips. then you get a d2s converter for 15 shipped. so you would be spending maybe 150-175, and you already do have the tsx clear lense in your hands.

[Pawel062]

yep. pm me like usual and i can help u find parts.

[molson.david]

ok.I'll start looking for projectors,but if my wife find out,I'm dead man and all of you will be partially responsible for that.