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Old 05-26-2010, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Canada Toyota Camry 2005 LE Brake Pads change?

Hello there, I was told that my Toyota Camry 2005 LE brake pads have only 30% left. The mechanics there are charging a heavy fine for the pads. I am hoping to purchase the pads my self. First thing is do I need to replace all the pads on the car or just the front and second, is there a particular pad brand I need to purchase? I am from Toronto, Canada and I am hoping to purchase the cheapest price for a set of brake pads. I can also purchase it from eBay, can someone recommend me a set of brake pads for a good price.

Once I buy it, I am bringing it to the shop to get someone to do it for me.

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Usually the front pads wear faster than the rear but the only way to be sure is to pull the wheels and have a look. If the mechanic told you that you had 30% on the front then there is pad enough, and time enough, to save up and get something that is NOT the least expensive pad. You get what you pay for here, and it is true. The cheap ones will dust up, wear, and be gone long before a good set would. The prices at the dealer's parts counter won't be horrible compared to parts stores for comparable pads, and then you know that you are getting good stuff. Otherwise, save up a little and buy some good ceramics. They will last.
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So how many kilometers did the 60% last you? I much rather they go by mm instead of %. Do you think they calculate that based on the amount on the new pads? You should change the pads when there are about 3mm left. I wouldn't wait until the last mm.

Replace one axle at a time is usually sufficient. Because the rear usually has more material left. But do check, newer ABS with brake force redistribution can mean they wear similarly.

I'd get Akebono ProAct ceramics. These dust little, resist fade well in typical driving, quiet, and laaaaast a looooong time. So in that sense would be less expensive than some cheap pads that last only 20K miles.

Or go to your local dealer and ask to see the pads. If you see edge codes like "AK xxx-xxx FF" then those are Akebonos as well. If you see "NBK xxx-xxx FF", run, don't walk.

I'd make sure the shop uses a torque wrench. No petro cleaners on rubber parts (alcohol based only). Caliper anchor pins properly lubed.

If you need rotors, get Raybestos Advanced Technology rotors.



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Hello there, I was told that my Toyota Camry 2005 LE brake pads have only 30% left. The mechanics there are charging a heavy fine for the pads. I am hoping to purchase the pads my self. First thing is do I need to replace all the pads on the car or just the front and second, is there a particular pad brand I need to purchase? I am from Toronto, Canada and I am hoping to purchase the cheapest price for a set of brake pads. I can also purchase it from eBay, can someone recommend me a set of brake pads for a good price.

Once I buy it, I am bringing it to the shop to get someone to do it for me.

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So how many kilometers did the 60% last you? I much rather they go by mm instead of %. Do you think they calculate that based on the amount on the new pads? You should change the pads when there are about 3mm left. I wouldn't wait until the last mm.

Replace one axle at a time is usually sufficient. Because the rear usually has more material left. But do check, newer ABS with brake force redistribution can mean they wear similarly.

I'd get Akebono ProAct ceramics. These dust little, resist fade well in typical driving, quiet, and laaaaast a looooong time. So in that sense would be less expensive than some cheap pads that last only 20K miles.

Or go to your local dealer and ask to see the pads. If you see edge codes like "AK xxx-xxx FF" then those are Akebonos as well. If you see "NBK xxx-xxx FF", run, don't walk.

I'd make sure the shop uses a torque wrench. No petro cleaners on rubber parts (alcohol based only). Caliper anchor pins properly lubed.

If you need rotors, get Raybestos Advanced Technology rotors.
Thanks for replying, looks like you know a lot stuff about it. Usually for a set of front brake pads, how much do they retail for so I won't get ripped off? I see a lot of NBK on eBay and I was tempted to purchase a set earlier. I believe my 2005 Camry has about 60,000 KM at the moment. Do you know any reputable website which sells it for a good price and willing to ship to Canada? Thanks.

EDIT: Also, I see EBK, I don't know if that's a good brand but it come with ceramics too

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Don't know EBK brakes. I do know EBC brakes. Decent. I'd go Hawk (performance pads, but may be a bit noisy) or ATE (a Continental Group of companies) as well, often used on European cars.

I'm in the States, so I can only give you what online retailers here sell at. I know rockauto.com ships to Canada, TN member get 5% off. However, import duty may cost you quite a bit more. Or check Amazon. They ship everywhere.

Using 2005 Camry LE 2.4L (verify your application, preferably using manufacturer's web catalogs):

Akebono ACT 908 (front, Japan prod), USD $32.79
Akebono ACT 885 (rear, Japan prod), USD $43.79

Akebono ACT 906A (front, US prod), USD $50.79
Akebono ACT 828 (rear, US prod), USD $32.79

Raybestos 96217 Advanced Technology front rotor USD $38.89
Raybestos 980076 Advanced Technology front rotor USD $47.79


http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/index.asp
http://www.raybestos.com/wps/portal/raybestos


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Thanks for replying, looks like you know a lot stuff about it. Usually for a set of front brake pads, how much do they retail for so I won't get ripped off? I see a lot of NBK on eBay and I was tempted to purchase a set earlier. I believe my 2005 Camry has about 60,000 KM at the moment. Do you know any reputable website which sells it for a good price and willing to ship to Canada? Thanks.

EDIT: Also, I see EBK, I don't know if that's a good brand but it come with ceramics too

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I'd get Akebono ProAct ceramics. These dust little, resist fade well in typical driving, quiet, and laaaaast a looooong time. So in that sense would be less expensive than some cheap pads that last only 20K miles.

Or go to your local dealer and ask to see the pads. If you see edge codes like "AK xxx-xxx FF" then those are Akebonos as well. If you see "NBK xxx-xxx FF", run, don't walk.
I pulled the MSDS for Napa Ultra Premium Ceramic and according to that, they are manufactured by Akebono with FF friction code. I don't remember how the price compares though. But that could mean a local source for many people if they don't want to order online. Akebono pads aren't exactly easy to find locally.

Napa Ultra Premium rotors are rebranded Raybestos Advanced Technology. Napa's warranty covers against warping as long as they are above the discard thickness.
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Don't know EBK brakes. I do know EBC brakes. Decent. I'd go Hawk (performance pads, but may be a bit noisy) or ATE (a Continental Group of companies) as well, often used on European cars.

I'm in the States, so I can only give you what online retailers here sell at. I know rockauto.com ships to Canada, TN member get 5% off. However, import duty may cost you quite a bit more. Or check Amazon. They ship everywhere.

Using 2005 Camry LE 2.4L (verify your application, preferably using manufacturer's web catalogs):

Akebono ACT 908 (front, Japan prod), USD $32.79
Akebono ACT 885 (rear, Japan prod), USD $43.79

Akebono ACT 906A (front, US prod), USD $50.79
Akebono ACT 828 (rear, US prod), USD $32.79

Raybestos 96217 Advanced Technology front rotor USD $38.89
Raybestos 980076 Advanced Technology front rotor USD $47.79


http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/index.asp
http://www.raybestos.com/wps/portal/raybestos
Yes, it's EBC. My bad. Wow those prices are good. I check here in Toronto, they are about ~$100 to $140 for Akebono. Last question, which is better in terms of quality? Japan or US production? Thanks.
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Well, at those prices you can pay 100% import duty and still come out ahead.

As far as Japan/US production goes, it's about where the CAR is made, not the pads. Look at the decal on the door or door frame, it'll tell you where it's made. Or check the VIN number, if you see something like JTxxx it's Japan. Something like 1xx or 4xx it's US. Of course there may be other Canadian VIN codes I don't know about.

I stopped paying attention to the factory locale where small parts like these are made. They're pretty much all over.


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Yes, it's EBC. My bad. Wow those prices are good. I check here in Toronto, they are about ~$100 to $140 for Akebono. Last question, which is better in terms of quality? Japan or US production? Thanks.
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Well, at those prices you can pay 100% import duty and still come out ahead.

As far as Japan/US production goes, it's about where the CAR is made, not the pads. Look at the decal on the door or door frame, it'll tell you where it's made. Or check the VIN number, if you see something like JTxxx it's Japan. Something like 1xx or 4xx it's US. Of course there may be other Canadian VIN codes I don't know about.

I stopped paying attention to the factory locale where small parts like these are made. They're pretty much all over.
Thanks for replying, John. You were very helpful.

The Camry is made in USA. I guess it would be better to stick with USA pads. Thanks again.
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