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Old 07-04-2010, 11:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2002 Camry Speed limiter remove?

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I have a cousin in Germany who has taken my dad's old 2002 Camry automatic from the USA to use there. Everything was going fine until he realized that it limits your speed to something like 120 Miles per hour... He has asked around in Germany but not many people in the town he lives in knows how to remove this limiter. I have heard that there are devices that plug into the service port in the car and allow you to remove this limit? Does anyone here have any idea at all how this can be done and where I can buy the necessary tools?
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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why? 120mph is more than enough ...
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why? 120mph is more than enough ...
Not on the autobahn. 120 is fine here in the USA, but not in Germany.
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It can only be done at a dealership. Considering he's in Germany and the car is US, I dont think it can be done with Germany tools. Purchasing such a diagnostic device to change things will cost a pretty penny and probably hard to obtain.
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You might be able to use a speed cut defender. HKS and Pivot make them, among other brands, which removes the speed cut by tricking the ECU into thinking that you're doing less than the maximum speed allowed by the cars factory speed limiter. It would typically be installed by splicing the vehicles speed sensor wire that leads to the ECU.
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There is likely a REASON that Toyota put a speed governor on that car and it probably has nothing at all to do with the speed limit in West Texas or Nevada. Have the engine pulled, disassembled, and blueprinted before it ships. Get it balanced like a NASCAR engine. Then it might last. Otherwise, drive in the right lane and be happy with it.
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There is likely a REASON that Toyota put a speed governor on that car and it probably has nothing at all to do with the speed limit in West Texas or Nevada. Have the engine pulled, disassembled, and blueprinted before it ships. Get it balanced like a NASCAR engine. Then it might last. Otherwise, drive in the right lane and be happy with it.
^^ agreed!

I had an '02 Camry until about 3 months ago (bought new in 2002). I can't imagine doing 120mph in that car let alone any faster. First thing that comes to mind, what kind of tires does your cousin have on that car?
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You might be able to use a speed cut defender. HKS and Pivot make them, among other brands, which removes the speed cut by tricking the ECU into thinking that you're doing less than the maximum speed allowed by the cars factory speed limiter. It would typically be installed by splicing the vehicles speed sensor wire that leads to the ECU.
Cool thanks for the tip ill look that up! I saw a bunch of devices that look like they connect to the service point and then have some override function to unblock the speed limiter. But I don't know if I was looking at the right model for the Camry or not or if there even was one for the Camry...
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There is likely a REASON that Toyota put a speed governor on that car and it probably has nothing at all to do with the speed limit in West Texas or Nevada. Have the engine pulled, disassembled, and blueprinted before it ships. Get it balanced like a NASCAR engine. Then it might last. Otherwise, drive in the right lane and be happy with it.
Thanks for the advice but I'm sure my cousin knows of the risks. I didn't mention the fact that he works at an auto garage. He has a whole new suspension on the car and new tires that allow a speed of 270 mph. I'm not too familiar with cars myself or I could tell you what else he has done to it. Long story short, he knows of the risks and has chosen to do it anyway.
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Is it a V6 or a 4cyl? If it's a 4cyl I'd say there's not much point in defeating the speed limiter because I doubt the car could even break 135-140. Also, don't plan on the car lasting very long driving like that either. If you're looking for speed, I'd say just sell the car for something faster. The Camry was designed to be a comfortable, economical daily commuter, not a BMW-killer.
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Toyota production engines are not designed for that kind of driving and that 2002 won't last very long. Heed the advice posted above and take the secondary roads.
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Well, the speed red line of 120 would apply to an I4. The V6's are set a little higher, but as for the cousin working in a repair shop, well, that must make things just all right then.....

I'm guessing you have never seen a German highway? Yes the speed limit is higher than in San Francisco but guess what? When it rains, people slow down because they don't want to die young. When it snows, the same, and when someone is driving a smallish car with a top speed of 120 km/h, well, that's all they do. Tell your cousin to drive a normal/safe speed and finish job in good health.
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Ok so I told my cousin all the things you guys have pointed out on here and this is what he says. Apparently on the car, when you touch 120, the fuel injection stops and so the car dies for a bit and slows down and then accelerates and dies and so on and so on... So he can't even do a steady 120 on it. Also he said that he knows the car wouldn't be able to do much more than 15-20mph extra with the limiter off, but the little extra would be nice especially if it does not keep dying and coming back to life when he touches that speed.
So if you guys can help with unblocking the speed limiter, any help would be appreciated. If I want opinions on weather I should do it or not, I will open another thread. But thanks for the concern
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Ok so here is something that I have found.

http://www.yourhotcar.com/prod/Gredd...590201/803526/

So does anyone know if this is compatible with the 2002 Camry 4cyl? And apparently the ECU has tons of wires in there. Anyone know how to find the right wire and which one the right wire is?
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