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Old 07-15-2010, 10:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question walmart Mobile 1 5w-20 5 qt deal

I just bought a 2011 Camry LE 2 AR-FE 4 banger. The manual calls for 0W-20 synthetic. I see Walmart has Mobile 1 synthetic in 5 qt jugs at $21. Looks like my choice is 0W-30 or 5W-20, closest to 0W-20. I have only seen 0W-20 in qts at about $6.95. I am thinking the 5W-20 would be closest since the 5W spec would only apply on start up in cold wx , most of the time the engine running would be under the 20 spec at operating temp. Am I correct in my thinking? I plan on replacing my oil at 4-5K intervals even though the manual says 10K OCI except for first change at 5 K. The dealer says I get "free oil changes for 2 years or 25 K. Is that about 3 changes? Bob
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That's the normal price for years.
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When you purchase a car you can negotiate lifetime maintenance never have to pay for a oil change lol. What sucks is no one ever remember to bring it up when they buy a car.

Oh and its a ok price nothing out of the ordinary.
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that life time oil change is only worth it when u do keep the car over 10 years time. what annoy me a bit is they try to do the checkup too every single time. And once my rear tire exploded after the oil change and wash at the dealer. So it's not the greatest.
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When you purchase a car you can negotiate lifetime maintenance never have to pay for a oil change lol. What sucks is no one ever remember to bring it up when they buy a car.

Oh and its a ok price nothing out of the ordinary.
I wouldn't want my dealer to do the oil changes. The dishonest bastards that they are would find some reason to charge me for some other work every time I brought it in

We had to replace the blinker fluid, that will be $1500 please

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I recently changed oil on my 2010 Camry LE and synthetic oil was put by the dealer. It was covered under 2 year pre paid care maintenance program Toyota had when I bought car in April. I think that program is still there. You don't need to buy oil.
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I've found that Wal-Mart is the best place if you just want the oil. Mobil 1, Quaker State, Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra, Valvoline, most of the major mainstream brands.

Through the end of July, they have coupons around the 5 quart Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra jugs for $5 off. So, Platinum is $15.50 and Ultra is $23 (at least where I live). Mobil 1 5w-20 is about $23, so with my oil change interval I will probably switch to Platinum for one change, then back to Mobil 1 or I might try out Ultra.

Also, if you need a filter as well, take a look at your friendly local auto parts store; the place I frequent (Kragen/O'Reilly) usually does a decent synthetic plus a good filter for $30. Right now it's five quarts of Mobil 1 with a Mobil 1 filter for that price. They had a $18 special for five quarts of their house brand synthetic plus a Mobil 1 filter; I picked up a couple for my wife's car.

I usually only need oil so I go to Wal-mart and get my filters online. But I do head on down to the FLPS if they have a good deal. In the past I would save a few bucks and just do it myself, but if I need to document oil changes for warranty purposes, I'll take it to a shop.
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This is actually one thing I'd get at the dealer. The dealer has the genuine Toyota 0W-20 oil for something like $6.50/quart, which is competitive with Mobil 1 0W-20. In addition, you'll likely prefer the genuine Toyota oil filter at about $4 each instead of the Fram oil filter at Walmart for about $7. All you're buying is the filter element anyway (cartridge filter), so you might as well get the Toyota one.

An oil change is NOT indicated at the 5K mile interval. A scheduled service IS recommended, however, which includes nothing more than fluid checks and a tire rotation. I also have the 2/25K maintenance with my 2011 and I'll certainly take them up on that. Your dealer will not change the oil at the 5K mark, unless they're just feeling real generous and give that to you for free.

Unfortunately, Mobil 1 0W-20 is not bottled in the 5-quart jug, so you do have to pay the per-quart price, which makes the genuine Toyota oil look like an even better deal. The Mobil 1 5W-20 should be fine to use, however. Personally, I'd run the 0W-20, but the 5W-20 shouldn't hurt anything. And the owner's manual DOES allow for that grade to be used, so you shouldn't have any warranty issues with using that grade. Now, if you were considering 15W-40, that'd be something else...
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I read my maintence book and an oil change at 5k is listed for use on dirt roads, short interval runs. I guess this is the "severe use " interval . Question is how do you know if they change the oil ? Also in the old days "break in oil" was used. I know for airplane engines you use non detergent oil so the rings set well. I assume also why you should vary the speed of the new car in order to "break in" the new engine.
I found on e-bay a dealer selling the filters 10/$30 with shipping comes to about $4 each.
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I read my maintence book and an oil change at 5k is listed for use on dirt roads, short interval runs. I guess this is the "severe use " interval . Question is how do you know if they change the oil ? Also in the old days "break in oil" was used. I know for airplane engines you use non detergent oil so the rings set well. I assume also why you should vary the speed of the new car in order to "break in" the new engine.
I found on e-bay a dealer selling the filters 10/$30 with shipping comes to about $4 each.

How do you know if they change the Oil?

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I read my maintence book and an oil change at 5k is listed for use on dirt roads, short interval runs. I guess this is the "severe use " interval . Question is how do you know if they change the oil ? Also in the old days "break in oil" was used. I know for airplane engines you use non detergent oil so the rings set well. I assume also why you should vary the speed of the new car in order to "break in" the new engine.
I found on e-bay a dealer selling the filters 10/$30 with shipping comes to about $4 each.
1) Yes, if you drive on dirt and mud roads, it does recommend changing the oil at 5k miles. Unless your car looks like you drive it in the Baja 1000, they'll simply rotate the tires and inspect the fluids at your 5k mile service.

2) How do you know if they change the oil? It'll say so on your service receipt.

3) Genuine Toyota 0W-20 is used at the factory, and the Toyota oil uses a very high level of molybdenum, among other constituents. There are a number of analyses of the Toyota 0W-20 on BobIsTheOilGuy.com, and most are impressed with its characteristics. Mobil 1's 0W-20 is also a good oil, but not as good (at least on paper) as the genuine Toyota 0W-20.

4) Check with your local dealer on the price for the filters. They should be less than $5 each, making messing with eBay and shipping probably not worth your time.
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