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Old 07-16-2010, 02:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 Gas Milage for a 2010 Camry SE

Hello,

I purchased a new 2010 camry SE 2.5 Liter in March of this year, but been getting pretty crappy MPG. So far, I've been hovering around 19 MPG with a mix of city and freeway driving. It seems quite low as my previous 2002 camry got at least 22-23 MPG. I checked my tire pressure and it appears fine.

I even tried going back to the dealer and telling him about it, but he kept telling me that the car needs to be broken in before MPG goes up. I have over 4000 miles on the odometer, yet it still gets only 19 MPG on average. When I baby it and drive on freeways on some trips, I get about 22-23 MPG.

Any ideas on this problem?

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Old 07-16-2010, 03:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well SF is very hilliy? i find with my driving style that I get better gas milage with the V6, I actually got far worse driving the 4cyl model.

Driving the v6 like I stole it. I still get 20.5 mpg combined street/highway.

Relaxed and kicked back I get 22.5mpg

The 4cyl I got 17mpg

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Old 07-16-2010, 03:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the MPG info, it's just so frustrating as I think to myself that if I'm going to get such bad MPG, might as well gotten a V6! I didn't get it to save gas. so far its backfiring.

And yeah, there are a few more hills in SF than normal, but it still does not justify the 19MPG. My friend has the bottom of the line 2010 Camry, and gets like 23MPG.

can there be anything wrong with the car?
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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No. There is nothing wrong. Go over to I5, fill it up, drive down to San Diego, turn around and drive home. Fill up again when you get off I5 and figure your mileage. Get some miles on the car. The wheel bearings have to loosen up. 4k miles is nothing.
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hmm i normally get 27mpg.
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I say BS. 4,000 miles is plenty.

My Camry mileage was excellent off the lot and improved only about 0.15 mpg after that.

Lowest tank = 22.59 mpg, best tank = 36.55, average for 50,000 miles = 27.05.
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Not that it is exactly comparable, but I live in a semi-hilly area with tons of signals. My 2001 Honda Accord 4-cyl gave me around 18mpg. With my 2007 Camry V6 I get around 20mpg with about the same driving style.

As a test, try making a long distance (maybe 200 miles) freeway trip and see what your gas mileage is. The Gen6 Camry should be capable of 25+ MPG without a problem and probably 27+. If you are not able to hit this number, there is a possibility you have a stuck brake caliper or some other issue, but I doubt it.

The terrain, weather, amount of braking, amount of acceleration, and overall driving style all make a tremendous difference in your gas mileage.

By the way, I concur with njerald. None of my cars seem to get significantly better gas mileage whether I had 10 miles on the odometer, 10k, or even 50k. After 70k or so is where I start to notice a small drop-off.
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There is something wrong with your car. I always calculate mpg when fill up. However, I found out the trip computer actually gives a pretty good estimate of the mpg from fill up until next fill. The number is always higher than the manually calculated value. However, the difference only varies between 05 to 1.0.
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You need to be comparing apples to apples, and no car company is going to calculate mileage based on how well the car performs in San Francisco. As I said earlier today, drive over to I5 and take it for a spin. Fill the tank until it is full. Level full with the cap, and then drive all day on level and flat highway. Do the speed limit. If you feel the need to add some gas, great. Keep track of how many gallons. Drive all the way back the fill up again at the same pump and fill it level full with the cap again. Figure your gas mileage and compare to the highway number. If it is close, then all is well. If not, then tell the dealer. Drive over the hill to San Francisco and park the car. Do not assume that your in city mileage will be anything close to in city mileage in St. Louis or Denver. Try this. Find a truly flat area. From a standing start, see how little toe you need to give it to get up to 25 miles per hour. Remembering the amount of toe you gave it, say 1/4 inch, find yourself at the bottom of one of the hills you need to take and give the accelerator exactly the same amount of toe. See what happens. See how much more it takes to get to 25 mph.
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I agree that the driving environment (San Francisco) is to blame, and not likely the car. Apparently like njerald, mine has been ace right off the lot. I haven't had one tank yet as low as the EPA mileage estimate. My worst tank was 27 MPG, and the best tank was near 41 MPG. The 41 MPG tank was 100% highway driving at the speed limit or less...ideal conditions. My "normal" mixed tank with a lot of highway is 32-33 MPG.
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I agree that the driving environment (San Francisco) is to blame, and not likely the car. Apparently like njerald, mine has been ace right off the lot. I haven't had one tank yet as low as the EPA mileage estimate. My worst tank was 27 MPG, and the best tank was near 41 MPG. The 41 MPG tank was 100% highway driving at the speed limit or less...ideal conditions. My "normal" mixed tank with a lot of highway is 32-33 MPG.
My V6 gets about 30-35mpg if I do 55mph for 400 something miles straight.
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I agree that the driving environment (San Francisco) is to blame, and not likely the car. Apparently like njerald, mine has been ace right off the lot. I haven't had one tank yet as low as the EPA mileage estimate. My worst tank was 27 MPG, and the best tank was near 41 MPG. The 41 MPG tank was 100% highway driving at the speed limit or less...ideal conditions. My "normal" mixed tank with a lot of highway is 32-33 MPG.

Wow ^^
The best I have managed is 37 driving 60 mph and Flat ass Kansas terrain.

I have noticed a difference in all of my new cars as they became "Broke in". I think this has more to do with ecu learning my shift points for my driving style with the two newest cars though.

That is what I would say your problem is. They take awhile to learn your driving style and San Francisco is very hilly. It probably has to keep it fairly high strung all the time. The biggest drop I notice seems to be somewhere around 3000 rpm. I think this must be where the vvti starts to cam up the engine. If I keep things under that for the whole tank I get 35 mpg no problems in my 09 i4.
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You can't really compare MPG if the commutes aren't similar. I haven't driven much in San Francisco even though I'm from there but if you can, get as much speed possible (and legally), hold your foot at that throttle position, and climb the hill. Your speed will drop but that's fine.
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I have an 07 V6 and the best I can do and not get killed is about 31.5 mpg, but that is flat to small hill country. If I tried to keep it to 55 it might do much better because that is barely above an idle, but our speed limits are a bit higher than y'alls. Folks don't get speeding tickets in Texas unless they really work at it. The way the laws are formulated, you have to be citable for at least 12 over the posted speed before the fine covers the cost of the court time. Interstate speed limits vary from 65-80, so 90-95 is not unusual if traffic is light. At 55 people are running the risk of being rear ended constantly and present a hazard. Cops will pull them over and escort them to the service road so they don't cause an accident.
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