5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
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I've had excellent service with Michelin's Harmony on two Gen 5's (02 and 05). I still have the 05 and they are wearing very well. Very quite tire too.
Just last week when I was in to get a front end alignment on my mother-in-law's '06 Camry (non dealer and well known specialist in S. Florida for front ends), I asked the owner about the Hydroedge tires. He said they're good, but you can never change the rotation direction with that model... just in case you need to.
I have Hydroedge. I think they are a little more noisy than the crap Dunlops that came on the car, but those only lasted about 27000 miles. The Hydroedge have a wear rating of 800 which would suggest that they are hard riding but I haven't found this to be the case. I'd buy Hyrdroedge again, but I doubt I will ever wear these tires out and need a new set. These are great tires.
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Most stores will price match when you add shipping and then they will charge you like $15 per tire to mount and balance... you can still save like $50 a tire.
I wanted to get the Hydroedge on my 08 Camry, but Sams Club wouldnt install the tire due to the speed rating being lower. I ended up with the Michelin Pilot Exaltos which I like, but they wont last anywhere near as long as the Hydroedge would have. I have about 19k on the Exaltos at this time.
I wanted to get the Hydroedge on my 08 Camry, but Sams Club wouldnt install the tire due to the speed rating being lower. I ended up with the Michelin Pilot Exaltos which I like, but they wont last anywhere near as long as the Hydroedge would have. I have about 19k on the Exaltos at this time.
I got the Michelin Primacy tires at Sams Club. They asked me to sign a waiver because of the lower speed rating, then installed them.
Toyo tires have been voted number one in product quality for the last eight years by Tire Review magazine that conducted a study of independent tire dealers
Did they make you sign a release due to the lower speed rating?
They may not have been (a lower speed rating). The Michelin Primacy MXV4 is available in two speed ratings in this size: H and V. Technically, the 94H tire is a P215/60R16 94H, and the 95V tire is a 215/60R16 95V (no preceding "P" in the tire size). He may have had the 95V version installed, which meets the original speed rating (V) and exceeds the original load index (94).
I am wondering if anyone here has any personal experience on one, or both of these tires.
Not directly on a Camry, but I've used the Michelin X Radial from Sam's Club on a number of vehicles. The X Radial is a nearly identical cousin to the Harmony, it's just a warehouse club-specific tire based on the Harmony that uses a slightly different tread pattern. Though few objective tests of this tire have been done, probably due to its somewhat limited availability, Consumer Reports tested it back in 2005, and it scored #2 overall in the all season test, ahead of the #5-ranked Michelin Harmony. So for whatever that's worth...
I had the X Radial on a '97 Cadillac in the P225/60R16 size, and I have them on an '07 Chrysler Town & Country in the 215/65R16 size. I'd probably put them on my Camry as well, but they don't match the speed rating (T-rated) and I'd prefer to have at least an H-rated tire on it. For a vehicle that can take an S- or T-rated tire, I think the Michelin X Radial is hard to beat. You can also get the Michelin WeatherWise II from Sears or the Michelin Destiny from Discount Tire. They're all cousins to the Harmony...just specific names for each retailer.
I personally don't go with a lower speed-rating than what is recommended in the manuals. The problem does not lie at speed capability, but it's in the structure of the tire. What makes a V rated tire, besides to the speed capability, is grip and steering preciseness, which will be lower in lower speed ratings. This means that the cornering ability and the ability to predict the vehicle is going to affect, based on steering feedback, is not going to be a crisp. This is a safety issue, so you should think carefully. If anything happens, that is your fault not operating your vehicle correctly.
I personally don't go with a lower speed-rating than what is recommended in the manuals. The problem does not lie at speed capability, but it's in the structure of the tire. What makes a V rated tire, besides to the speed capability, is grip and steering preciseness, which will be lower in lower speed ratings. This means that the cornering ability and the ability to predict the vehicle is going to affect, based on steering feedback, is not going to be a crisp. This is a safety issue, so you should think carefully. If anything happens, that is your fault not operating your vehicle correctly.
Not a problem moving one lower speed rating.
If there was an issue,Tire Rack would have red flagged the order.
The Camry is no Porsche and the lower speed rating tires handling and cornering difference isn't noticed at all.
T rated tires are designated for family sedans and vans according to Tire Rack.Tire Rack has H rated for sport sedans and coupes.
The structure of the tire is fine for the application.I don't plan on doing 130 MPH for over 30 minutes like government testing.
The H's Primacy's will ride quieter and softer and be perfectly safe. You simply have to avoid cruising speeds past 130 mph for a long length of time.
The reason the Camry has V rated (149 MPH)tires is the V6 has a top speed of (governor limited): 145 mph.
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