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Old 11-06-2010, 11:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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tri-xenons finally done.. yay :D

So I finally completed this project today - It was fun.. but a huge waste of time apart from learning how to do it and knowing how bad I am at retrofits.

More pics to come later if ppl are curious about it. I don't recommend anyone else do this.. as anything more than one set of HIDs.. just doesn't seem to help.

my cutoffs are not the same for all four on purpose.. but there's also a bad rotation or matching issue....also my rx330s don't sit perfectly in the housing, and my custom shields have different sized cutoffs lol I purposely aimed the rx330's higher than the mh1s but I believe they are a different distance higher on each side lol... so if I straighten one cutoff, the other will be off >_< I'll get some pics later for that

In any case.. my mh1 are my city driving (aimed lower) and I have the option of just rx330s or both mh1+rx330s for my travels to the middle of nowhere. mh1 are also my high beam (it's a bixenon projector).



if you're curious how I did this.. I wired the rx330 to a foglight switch, which is hooked up to parking lights.. and yes everything has its own wiring harness.

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and diff in cutoff

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wow ! Pics of cut off? or even a video showing functionality?

So one projector is low beams only and the other is a bixenon which is low beams and high beams?

So you can technically drive with 2 sets of low beams? thats crazy, now retrofit some fogs!
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Old 11-06-2010, 11:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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haha I was originally gonna put'em in fogs actually... I was gonna wire the bixenon function down there too. I tried separating the front and back of the fog but broke off chunks from the lens... that and I don't have another wiring harness to hook them up to

so instead of that I put'em in the drl/high beam. the mh1 do very well in giving foreground light.. so they definitely act as fog lights when the rx330s are on

I'll take it out for a drive tomorrow night.. hopefully I'll remember to take cutoff pics after I adjust the lights - I'll probably line up the rx330s since I really don't even need headlights when driving around in the city (plenty street lights and other cars)
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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haha I was originally gonna put'em in fogs actually... I was gonna wire the bixenon function down there too. I tried separating the front and back of the fog but broke off chunks from the lens... that and I don't have another wiring harness to hook them up to

so instead of that I put'em in the drl/high beam. the mh1 do very well in giving foreground light.. so they definitely act as fog lights when the rx330s are on

I'll take it out for a drive tomorrow night.. hopefully I'll remember to take cutoff pics after I adjust the lights - I'll probably line up the rx330s since I really don't even need headlights when driving around in the city (plenty street lights and other cars)
That would be an epic set up, bixenons in the fogs, lows and highs.

Anyways im still excitied to see the results from this retrofit. I always wondered what this kind of set up would look like.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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looks good. now you know how my life is at times lol. and prob can appreciate more the work i put into ur fx-r and understand why they were low. good job on your own retro. love quads. can't wait till mine are done. just drop some es300s or something in fogs, put a shroud on the mini, and get some better pics. if u decide to re open em contact jvx for some custom shields.

if anyone wants a similar quad hit me up.
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do you have DRL's ?
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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from what i remember he doesnt. but it can be done. take the plug for highbeams and split it so that 1 connector goes to a halo while other to solenoid and the projector will light up for drl use. if it ain't bright enough i remember netforcer was able to wire up his highbeams so can be on with lows and also brightness can be controlled.
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well first.. halos are too unreliable for me to use.. and the reliable ones are too expensive... I don't mind how they look but .. really .. why did I buy a toyota.. reliability and cost.. and yes I did use ddm ballasts for my mh1s XD hehe.. but whatever.. I got koitos from pawel for my rx's

I had drls w/ the fx-rs.. well...but consider this
I never use drls b/c the concept is stupid but worthy to me. I believe the benefit in drl comes when a user isn't sure of when their car should have lighting to provide visibility for traffic or if they just forget. I do not think I have this issue b/c I just turn on my low beams if I think it's mildly dark
What I did use the drls for is when I was stopped on a hill and blinding oncoming traffic - I'd turn it to parking mode, which enables the drls while keeping the other lighting on (license plate, tail lights, parking lights, etc.)

my only compensation for that idea is that my mh1 are aimed low anyway

pawel.. if you're curious about why I didn't tip on that project, it wasn't so much the end product, but rather what I will view as a lot of miscommunication. If you're curious, I'll be happy to explain with PMs the details behind my thought process.. but really it's b/c I was disappointed b/c I thought I had an experienced mechanic on hand that could give me the same job that I saw on another person's vehicle (the rx330). What I believe I received was a first-time experiment on my dollar. And all things being equal.. yes I did pick the fx-rs and yes I did choose to use a repaired headlight. I was disappointed at the rotation, but that's definitely not your fault. The low thing... while it's not something I care about, it's the concept of why it happened and why I was convinced that the fx-r would come out just as well as the rx330 retrofit I saw... and honestly I think you'd be disappointed for the same reason at me. I was looking to tip a fairly small amount .. and you did not receive what you had hoped for. Of course, there's the bigger dollar stuff that happened in b/w....

but really.. I like your work and have never had any trouble recommending you as a retrofitter. You give people excellent deals and help them when they need it if they so chose to do it themselves. You're a great guy to deal with and I simply saw mine as a bump in the road - I think we were both overconfident on this project... and it dragged out, prices changed, and the end result wasn't what I thought it'd be...

and I do regret not asking you to build two brackets for me for those rx330s... I definitely didn't want a bracket built from the stock camry shield tho - it seems to loose out on width. Permanent marker and shears are definitely too time consuming tho.... too much tweaking w/o proper tools

and I do really miss my squirrel spotters... but the intensity gain minus the crapass self-made custom shield still makes up for it

in any case.. charged my cam bat for tonight... hopefully I won't disappoint myself -___-'

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lol i guess u didn't take that as i expected. didn't mean to bring back any discussion from ur fx-r retro or anything. i don't remember the whole discussion but wasn't lookin for any tips. i think it was ment as joke mostly. that retro definitely isn't one of my finest. done much better work since then. to be honest i wish i could change so many things from that retro. first being that i was very expirenced when i wasn't at the time. second i would of steered u clear of the fx-r bc they like the tl need a big housing and the camry one just becomes to weak if u want to get it centered. i know i did some expirements at the time and broke one of the inside reflectors trying to get them mounted while they are centered. they would work much better in a gen5 housing.

at this point i look back and laugh at the way the deal went down. i'll admit i should of never changed the price, never should of used them fx-r, and when it didn't come out as expected i should of actually lowered the price. thats what happens when u concentrate on the money instead of the customer. now that i really don't have any jobs i look back at the ones i did to see what i could of done better/change and see if prices need adjustment. prices i think are very fair but just need to step my game up.

about the brackets... i don't have access to any hardened steel or anything so thats why i believe i did the camry ones. plus i had expirence in tracing and cutting them as seen on the rx retro. plus they take the weight of all the projectors no problem n i can slim them down to fit between the 2 halves no problem. with width, u don't loose any as long as cut right. if i remember correctly i had only about 1/4 of a inch of material on each side and when it overlaps onto rx projector it only covers about 1/8 or so of the sides which light doesn't get to. i know i tried on my custom shield rx projectors with and without the brackets n saw no difference.

now let's get back to this and let me know if theres anything i can do to make everything right.
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oh definitely agreed on that one - the camry brackets are tough. I used a thin steel sheet bought from lowes or home depot.. so it's very bendable but still sustains that weight very well (so far)... hopefully most of the force is in a vertical direction.. and metal is very hard to stretch should the projectors get pushed forward or backward

at the time I didn't wanna risk dremeling my camry shield too far and breaking it when there was a chance that it still wouldn't be able to take the rx width - atleast I know it can now...but good to know that it can do it - will save a lot of work if I do it again (b/c rx330s are def my favorite right now in terms of price and output)

I wanted to do stupidpig's (I think it was his) mh1 mod to get a bixenon rx330 and get a quad goin.. but didn't seem worth it cause I'd lose a pair of good projectors.. so I'm down to tri-xenons

I still don't understand the hype behind the mh1 tho.. I hate that foreground light.. really kills my distance viewing .. unless I didn't properly mod mine yet... there's no way I can see an mh1 comparing to rx's, tls, s2ks, fx-rs...

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updated so u can see the crappy cutoffs I hate to say it.. but I actually like those little peaks - the one on the left allows for a lil visibility and rarely shines in ppl's eyes so far. I did notice a weird buzzing sound when I put it in park light mode tho.. that can't be good =\ probably has to do w/ the drl voltage or amperage not having anywhere to go.... well.. it certainly wasn't enough to actuate the solenoid on the mh1... anyone know if it's an issue?

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well crap.. apparently it's a module or relay buzz b/c the drl voltage has nowhere to go if I use rx330s by themselves.. -__-' so I guess my options are to figure a way to disable those suckers.. or maybe split it down to my foglights and stick some LEDs in there... so now I gotta figure out some h11 LEDs that can use the drl voltage/wattage... -__-'
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wow looks great, what temp are the hids? 4300?

also whats so great about the mh1 projectors ... after seeing this im really interested in a retrofit, im thinking of doing research and maybe attempting on over the holidays.. im already gonna take the headlamps apart to black house them (this will be my 2nd time doing it ) so maybe a projector wont be that much more difficult?
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