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Old 11-08-2010, 07:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Brake Pads 2002 Camry and Shims, Needed?

Replaced the pads on the back of the 2002 Camry. Replaced with Ceramic pads, that had a metal backing plate attached of some kind. The current pads had two metal shims of plates on each pad. Guy at parts house said with these Ceramic pads, that I did not need to replace those thin shims, as this pad comes with its own.

Did just that, car brakes seem fine. No noise, brakes fine. Even asked if I should use some disc brake quiet stuff, and he said no.

Is this the norm? Is it ok, to discard the old shims, with these new pads?
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Don't qoute me cause I am not that tecnical.

OK... a lot of pads do not come with shims. I thought you are suppose to use your old shims with the new pads. I don't know what the shims do....

WIth my last car, the mecanic told me to buy OEM pads next time due to the fact that the shims were almost finished.
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You don't have to use any noise reduction method. However, we usually put a little of the supplied grease to the specified contact points.

The shims are there to reduce noise. From that standpoint it's acceptable to use either the shims or the "brake quiet" rubbery compound. Clearly the rubbery compound doesn't do much as an insulator compared to a shim. Some manufacturers decided to use a 2-piece shim from the ice ages. Most others today use a one-piece integrated design, the good ones are riveted.

I'd keep the OEM shims on the shelf. And you have to make sure they're absolutely clean before putting them on the next set of OEM pads so the pads won't apply crooked on the slides.

In addition to absorbing vibrations that cause noise, the shims also act as insulators to slow down heat transfer from the pads to the calipers. So for the latter reason you should use the shims that come with the pads - but never 2 different shims together.

The aftermarket stick-on shims can shift. Like the ones that come with the otherwise excellent Akebono ProAct ceramic pads (an OEM manufacturer for Toyota). If they shift later just take them off, otherwise apply a little of the grease in the supplied tube to the specified contact points.

I actually remove stick-on shims myself. IMO they suck.


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Replaced the pads on the back of the 2002 Camry. Replaced with Ceramic pads, that had a metal backing plate attached of some kind. The current pads had two metal shims of plates on each pad. Guy at parts house said with these Ceramic pads, that I did not need to replace those thin shims, as this pad comes with its own.

Did just that, car brakes seem fine. No noise, brakes fine. Even asked if I should use some disc brake quiet stuff, and he said no.

Is this the norm? Is it ok, to discard the old shims, with these new pads?
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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BTW, are the old pads evenly worn on the inboard and outboard sides?
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