LED fogs?

[Ff7alex]

I was going through some threads and i just cant seem the find one where they had an led type of fog light bulb?
I used the search and went through 6 pages.... anyways my question is since i dont want to put hid's on my fogs since its blinding( and dont feel like paying for projectors), i really wanna utilize the foglight housing i have installed now. does anyone know about what brands are out there for them and best place to get them? im trying to go for a white/blueish color more than sylvania or hella offers.

I do recall reading that LED was going to either be the same or a little more brighter than the actual stock yellow foglight bulbs. and a better choice to not blind people compared to hids?

I am looking to buy an HID from ddmtuning, either a 55w 6k or 8k, whatever one is more of a subtle blueish color.......

[Ff7alex]

wait i think i found them,

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/D...62693-1-2.html


these are most likely it, I also found these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PAIR-...s#ht_500wt_587


couldnt these be used as DRL as well? ofcourse highbeams would be disabled

what is you guys opinions on these

[badbadtz560]

I would say if u want them to be useful in fog, go halogen and if you want them for looks and longevity, go LED.
If you want to blind everyone on the road and waste money while doing so, then go HID. honestly, HIDs in reflector-fogs are nearly the worst idea I've ever seen on any forum that has anything to do w/ car lighting.. the only thing worse is 55w hids in old suvs' headlights - but most of the time u see that combo together anyway

I know those leds will not be visible in broad daylight if that's what you're lookin for. Not only that, but if you're talkin about replacing your drls (within the headlight housing), u need 9005s instead of h11 and yes you'd lose high beams. Once the outside conditions get dimmer, they'll be visible. I don't see the point of having lighting in broad daylight either way though..

I believe the audi or mercedes ones are something above 800 lumens.. maybe 1000+ even. The rating on the h11 v-led ones are 400... so if u want something bright, get more lumens

Another opinion I'll offer on this is that I don't think fogs actually help with lighting anyway. I'm comin from atlanta, which rarely has foggy conditions.. but foglights never helped me in any type of driving condition except that they act as squirrel spotters to light up road signs...

I've tried 35watt 5000k hids and halogens in the fog housing and wasn't satisfied w/ either. I'm contemplating wiring my fog's h11 halogen to the stock highbeam/drl wiring since I lost my drl to a recent headlight retrofit... or I may just get umnitza wannabes if they can be activated by the 9005 drl power output... umnitza wannabes being those led in the fog area that looks like a horizontal line...

[Ff7alex]

I see well because what I was thinking is have HID 6k-8k on mylows, wich ever one that looks more like the LED fogs. and on top another set of LED for my DRL. I never really have to use my brights so I dont worry about it I live in florida so is always sunny here....

Wouldn't the V-LEDS HID 6K WHITE 28 LED 2X BRIGHTER OUTPUT FOG BULBS H11 from the first link be brighter duo to the reflector housing from where the fogs are?

* I found these that were installed in a camaro, they are 5202 (H16) 24 LED fog light Bulbs White from flashtech. I emailed them asking about the amount of lumens they put out and ill use them to compare them to the V-LEDS one.....they should give me a good idea of what it might look like. right?

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...TCamaro006.jpg




*I do not have a lumen rating for these, but it should be equivalent or slightly higher then your factory bulbs.

steve

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Alex Flores <alexfloresusa@yahoo.com> wrote:

How many lumens do your 5202 (H16) 24 LED fog light Bulbs White put out?

thank you for your time,

Alex F.

[Tek-nique]

So from what i have been reading so far you guys want your foglights just for show?
(putting blue color bulbs in there)

And i thought the OP wanted to utilize his foglights? Just put a 3000k bulb in there or better yet jdm yellow bulb. http://www.luminicsbulbs.com/jdm_yellow.php
another reason why you see a lot of street lights are either amerberish to yellow light

there is science behind lighting...

If you want to really utilze your fog lights i recommend reading:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99xx4.htm

or if you just want to show off then just stick any kind of blue bulb there. each to their own i guess. Good luck

[Ff7alex]

Originally Posted by Tek-nique

So from what i have been reading so far you guys want your foglights just for show?
(putting blue color bulbs in there)

And i thought the OP wanted to utilize his foglights? Just put a 3000k bulb in there or better yet jdm yellow bulb. http://www.luminicsbulbs.com/jdm_yellow.php

there is science behind lighting...

If you want to really utilze your fog lights i recommend reading:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99xx4.htm

or if you just want to show off then just stick any kind of blue bulb there. each to their own i guess. Good luck

Reason i want to usethem is because they cost me 150 to have them shipped and installed, so i dont really want to buy projector or take them out to put led strips wich i really like...sorry for the misunderstanding i didnt mean to use the world utilize in the sense of its purpose, just utilize for show you can say =D + LED would be better since I wouldnt* be wasting as much energy than if I used regular halogens. As far as I have it understood lol

[badbadtz560]

Originally Posted by Tek-nique

So from what i have been reading so far you guys want your foglights just for show?
(putting blue color bulbs in there)

And i thought the OP wanted to utilize his foglights? Just put a 3000k bulb in there or better yet jdm yellow bulb. http://www.luminicsbulbs.com/jdm_yellow.php
another reason why you see a lot of street lights are either amerberish to yellow light

there is science behind lighting...

If you want to really utilze your fog lights i recommend reading:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99xx4.htm

or if you just want to show off then just stick any kind of blue bulb there. each to their own i guess. Good luck

I don't quite understand your post. Your link seems to describe why choosing any color fogs over another does not provide any benefit in actual fog or rain... and that yellow was either chosen b/c ppl misinterpreted an equation or b/c it's a diff color that signals adverse conditions to other drivers. So... basically its only function is for show in my opinion. Please correct me if I misread your post as I only read part of it.

One other thing that I already mentioned - foglights are useless if you have a good projector... of course.. I don't remember how good or bad stock camry projectors are =\ so I won't comment further if fogs can be functional for ff7alex's sake- i simply stated that foglights are useless in my application - and my application is atlanta driving w/ quad availability - my tests were 35w 5000k hids in fogs as well as halogen.


oh I misinterpreted what u mentioned w/ drls - didn't realize u were looking at two separate replacements with LEDs. I would say don't buy the same color temperature of low beams as your fogs and drl (but do match fog and drl) if u want your colors to match.
The reason I say this is b/c of flicker. if u turn your low beams on and sit in another car, they typically will not see the same yellow light as what you see on the road. Another way to see what I'm saying is to look at your low beams while going b/w crouching and standing.. you'll see the light change colors. This is b/c projectors have this 'prismatic' effect at the cutoff. basically, other people looking at your 4300k light bulbs may actually see 6k-8k depending on the height of their car and how you aim your lights

so basically I'm saying get a lower color temp on your low beams than your fogs and drls b/c of the flicker effect that your projectors likely give. How much lower I don't know... I never felt like color matching.

i'm not sure what u mean by being brighter b/c of being in a reflective housing. The reflective housing can scatter its effect to a wider area (so more ppl can see from differing angles), but this will not change the fact that ppl in front of you (whether driving same direction in front or oncoming) will only get a max of 400lumens as opposed to an OEM of something greater than 800 lumens.

if lumens are... how much light is simply produced and brightness is perceived luminosity, the fact that all the leds aren't being shone directly towards other cars would mean that your fogs will look much much dimmer.. but I forget about what lumens really means and how they measure it.

[Ff7alex]

Yeah it makes sense. so i guess now my only concern with this project would be
-deciding between 6k-8k 55w for lows ( i feel 6k is most likely the best choice to match the V-led bulbs) and better visibility

-how to connect the DRL bcause im guessing theres certain step i have to follow to connect LED bulbs as as a replacement?

-try to find a H11 LED bulb with greater lumens?

*it is all starting to make sense now =D

[badbadtz560]

well.. quick word of caution - be careful w/ those 55w lows...I've read a lot about 55w melting shrouds, chrome, etc. I don't know if the camry projector's chrome can take that kind of heat in the long run - I'm sure it'll work great for a few months.. but there's a chance that further down the road, you could notice dimmer lights or a weird dim spots in your cutoff pattern b/c the chrome in teh reflector bowl got damaged. How to avoid this? look for quality bulbs... where to get quality bulbs? I don't know ><

whatever u do.. if you leave the hids on for extended periods of time.. make sure your car is moving... if your car's sitting in the garage and you leave your 55w on for 30 mins, things are likely gonna melt.. but that was probably common sense

the led h11 bulbs will connect the same way as halogens - no issues there

finding an h11 or 9005 LED bulb that can rival OEM led drls... good luck let me know if u find one that doesn't cost an arm and a leg XD now finding one that'll already be visible in dim lighting conditions.. you already got it

[Ff7alex]

DRL led=

Fogs led=

lows hid= how do you feel about the ddmtunning ones they offer, for example Apexcone Raptor HID Kit?

if 55w would be too much than how would compare to the 35w at 6k? if im not mistaking they should be equivalent to the 55w 8k color wise,

* now that i think about it, the v-led fogs led at 6k would look more like 8k since they are low to the ground and most driver would be above it making it change color to their eyes? correct ?

[badbadtz560]

I've never used that particular one. I have used apexcone's older kits as well as the ddm slim kits ...and koito (OEM/denso). I've been lucky enough that none of my ballasts have ever failed.

How does hidplanet seem to feel about ddm products? for the price, buy two.. that way when one fails, u swap the backup and send the broken one to ddm to use the lifetime warranty.... rinse and repeat

your fogs are reflectors right? so there should be no flicker - only your low beams will produce a more blue color to other drivers b/c they have projectors. How to tell b/w reflector and projector? projector looks like there's a magnifying glass on it. If anything, I'd say
low=4300k or 5000k, leds = 6k ... or low = 6k and leds = 8k... but that's just a guess that the flicker will blue-it by 2k.... U won't know until u get'em lol

you'd really have to look at how your own projectors work.. how thick that cutoff is and how much color change

[Ff7alex]

whats sucks is that i cant find any led blubs h11 above 6k lol,
so i think im sticking with them, im putting them in my fogs and my DRL, and on my lows i heard that 55w kills the color to 2k less? so 35w 6k is the same as a 8k. so what im going to go with is the 35w 6k: that way i wont have to worry about the melting and colors should match between the DRL/Fogs adn the lows, and if anything the lows should be a probably just a tat more blueish =D.

imma wait till my bank account calms down to order, it went crazy with all the purchases i made the other day for my camry lol. so i gotta see how much i have lol. and ill post pics for when i have them installed

[Passat774]

Hey,

Spend the money and get
Philips Bulbs - LED Daylight Running Lights (DRL)