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Old 11-17-2010, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Best front speakers to upgrade 2011 Camry SE with stock head unit.

Hi Everyone,
I have searched the subject, and most answers are fairly old, so I am posting for new ideas. I just purchased a Black 2011 Camry SE with stock stereo and speakers, I have tinted the windows, now I want to upgrade my front speakers plus add an amp, but keep my head unit. I am new to audio upgrades so I need help choosing a good component speaker set and an amp to run them.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm in the same boat as you...BUT... I have part of my old system from my last car.

Anways... a lot depends on if you want a sub or not. If you do a sub... I would go with a decent pair of 6.5" in the front , the more expensive usually means better quality and sound. If you don't do a sub then I may stick with the 6x9's.

From my old system I have a JL 300.4 and an Alpine MDRM500 and one 12" W3 in a sealed box. I plan to buy component speakers... maybe focal 6.5" or JL 6.5" or boston 6.5", I will leave the rear speakers at stock or change them with speakers that cost no more then $125. And I think I will get the Kenwood eXcelon DDX896 as a hu.
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I say get a good set of 6.5" components in the front, power them properly with a good amp and then leave the rear stock. Add a sub if you want a bit more oomph.

Im picking up a set of Rockford Fosgate T1652-S 6.5" components soon. Havent decided on an exact amp , they need 100wrms so im thinking of either a Rockford fosgate p400-2 or T400-4.

You might want to invest in a bit of dynatmat for your doors if you are going to get components. It will really bring out the best in them.
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your best bet is to go to a specialist to get exact replacement items. I use crutchfield.com..... they are amazing try giving them a call. I've never have had a problem with there advice or specs.
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What's wrong with old answers and why wouldn't they be relevant to your inquiry?

State a budget! I mean can you afford a set of Focal K2 components or something along those lines? Or are you a Wal-mart special kind of guy?

It's best to go with a set of components. Listen to some sets with silk and metallic tweeters. They have very different sounds. Otherwise you might get stuck with something you hate.
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Hi, thanks for all the imput I have a budget of about 400.00, and could go a little higher, for speakers, amp and install. I don't want to do much or any modification if possible, and I am concerned about tweeter placement. I am mostly interested in components whose tweeters can fit in the factory location, or in the same speaker bracket next to woofer if that is possible. All thoughts are welcome.

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If you are going for sound quality, it's best you don't put the tweeters in the dash like the stock tweeters.

Sicne you are getting 6-3/4 or 6-1/2 inch speakers and putting them in the 6x9 opening, put the tweeter right next to the mid.

Do you know the difference between silk and metallic tweeters? If not, you should listen to some before you start buying things from Internet. They have different sound characteristics and which sounds better is really up to the user. Some component sets have silk and metallic tweeter option for this reason.
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Hi, thanks for all the imput I have a budget of about 400.00, and could go a little higher, for speakers, amp and install. I don't want to do much or any modification if possible, and I am concerned about tweeter placement. I am mostly interested in components whose tweeters can fit in the factory location, or in the same speaker bracket next to woofer if that is possible. All thoughts are welcome.

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$$400 Installed!!!
Even if you get a free amp… it must be wired to the battery, through your interior to the trunk and then you need to wire your HU to the amp and then you need to wire the speakers from the amp….

Bottom line is, I don’t think you can get an amp and have it installed PLUS component speakers for $400.00.

I am also unaware of any woofer within the car? Do you like bass?


I am still very uncertain about your motives. What are you trying to achieve? I went to best buy and they quoted me $600 on the install for two amps, the amount of extra work to do two amps vers one amp is minimal… so I don’t think you will be able to achieve an amp and speakers for $400.00, even $600.00 will be a hard price point.


But you do have options.. (not many..lol)
Your car comes with 6”x9” speakers in the front and rear, there is many discussions about what is better the 6x9 or the 6.5”… you can read up on this. But for your budget, I would just change out the stock speakers and THAT’S IT. I may even spend less money and only change out the front speakers…

Buy replacing ALL 4 speakers and paying for the install… may reach very close to $400!!!!

Be careful about which speakers you buy… some speakers will require more power then your head unit provided to push them properly, using the same ideology… if you do get an amp you would want speakers that can make good use of the increase in power.
make good use of the increase in power.

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I am planning on keeping the rear stock, and getting 6.5 components in the front with an amp running the components this is probably the best route to improve SQ. I have been looking at Polk mm6501 6.5 or hat imagine 6.5(both price range online170-220). I an not sure about the amp yet. I have gone to best buy and listened to the low end polk and liked the sound, so the higher end mm line should sound even better. I have not heard the hat imagines, I am just going by reviews. For install I may go with best buy or installernet pre priced cards that's sold at Crutchfields and amazon for local installers as another option. My goal is to improve sound quality, and start small so if I want to add later on I can. If any one has other ideas or comments, please let me know.

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$$400 Installed!!!
Even if you get a free amp… it must be wired to the battery, through your interior to the trunk and then you need to wire your HU to the amp and then you need to wire the speakers from the amp….

Bottom line is, I don’t think you can get an amp and have it installed PLUS component speakers for $400.00.

I am also unaware of any woofer within the car? Do you like bass?


I am still very uncertain about your motives. What are you trying to achieve? I went to best buy and they quoted me $600 on the install for two amps, the amount of extra work to do two amps vers one amp is minimal… so I don’t think you will be able to achieve an amp and speakers for $400.00, even $600.00 will be a hard price point.


But you do have options.. (not many..lol)
Your car comes with 6”x9” speakers in the front and rear, there is many discussions about what is better the 6x9 or the 6.5”… you can read up on this. But for your budget, I would just change out the stock speakers and THAT’S IT. I may even spend less money and only change out the front speakers…

Buy replacing ALL 4 speakers and paying for the install… may reach very close to $400!!!!

Be careful about which speakers you buy… some speakers will require more power then your head unit provided to push them properly, using the same ideology… if you do get an amp you would want speakers that can make good use of the increase in power.
make good use of the increase in power.
I am not a car audio pro but here is a few questions:

What is the purposing of changing out the amplifiers? The stock speakers are plenty loud.

I would consider nicer mids, as the stock non-JBL system is already way too bass heavy and highs are OK. Is a simple front speaker swap suitable for this?
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VERY easy to find a nice set of name-brand 6.5 components AND a sweet 2-channel amp for less than $200 for everything, IF you know where to shop. Crutchfield was cheapest 20 years ago but not anymore. In fact they're often more expensive than the local retailers these days! I could find you a set of nice speakers AND a 2-channel amp for less than $200 total and leave some change in your pockets for wires and stuff if you were willing to install everything yourself. If you paid a shop to install everything it might cost a few bucks but you can easily do it yourself. Even still, if any local shop charges $200 to install an amp and a set of front components, they're ripping you off!

The only issue I have is why you would want an amp to the front and nothing to the rear. Do that and you'll barely ever hear the rears. I'd suggest either an amp to the rears FIRST, or just a 4 channel amp to everything. Why would you want to overpower the rear speakers? Especially if you get aftermarket fronts with better sensitivity, you will drown out the rears.

But no matter your choice, it's VERY easy to find a set of 6.5 components for $50-75 and a nice amp for around $80. You just have to know where to shop... www.sonicelectronix.com
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Great imput, I appreciate all the thoughts. Amping the front components and leaving the rear seems to be mainly what I have read during my online research.

Is it possible to get a four channel amp and power the components and my rear stock speakers? if this is possible it might be the best solution. All thoughts are welcome.

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VERY possible, and a great idea! But don't go for cheapest. Go for a decent amp that will be able to power any future speakers you may want to add later. This one is a great "entry level" 4-channel amp that will work well when as you upgrade your speakers! It puts out great power, too: 150wpc RMS x 4 and it has all the right adjustment abilities. And heck, it's only $100!

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...ar+VBP411.html
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Putting 150W RMS to the stock speakers is probably not a good idea since their power handling is only something like 20W. I guess you could turn the gains all the way down and keep volume at a reasonable level it might work.

Currently I'm running stock rear speakers off my HU and I've amped my front component set. It sounds fine to me...I did this mostly out of lazyness. The rear speakers are really for fill only. I don't like the way it sounds when they're not there, but I like it when it's just enough to be audible so I don't have some emptyness behind me. The component set from the front is mostly what I'm listening to...I think.

Personally, with a 4 channel amp, I'd bridge two of those for a small subwoofer, use two to power the front and run the rear off the HU. But then again, I'm running aftermarket head unit with 6 pre-outs.
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