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Old 12-31-2010, 10:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2010 Hood Paint Flaking/Chipping

Has anyone had, or heard of, a problem with the paint chipping/flaking on the hood of a 2010 LE? I have three spots, about 1/16"-1/8" on my hood that have chipped/flaked and you can see the primer. I don't think that I have been hit by flying debris but that's not to say that it couldn't be the case. I'm thinking of mentioning it to the dealer when I go in for my 20K service just so it is on record should there be some future TSB/recall for a paint problem. Car has been on the road for 18 months.

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Has anyone had, or heard of, a problem with the paint chipping/flaking on the hood of a 2010 LE? I have three spots, about 1/16"-1/8" on my hood that have chipped/flaked and you can see the primer. I don't think that I have been hit by flying debris but that's not to say that it couldn't be the case. I'm thinking of mentioning it to the dealer when I go in for my 20K service just so it is on record should there be some future TSB/recall for a paint problem. Car has been on the road for 18 months.

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i too have a 2010 LE....when i see a chip, i apply the touch up paint right away.....

you are not catching the chips fast enough....i have no flaking issues...my car was built in Kentucky probably like yours as well. also, if you are using a car wash place, under the high pressure of the nozzles, this will literally remove your paint as well. you simply MUST touch up those chips faster to keep the elements from finding a way to get under the chipped paint. you can try all you want to tell the dealer about this, but i think you are wasting your time.....

no one else has mentioned paint problems that i am aware of here on these boards, so i think its you that needs to be more diligent in keeping up with the chips.
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I am not saying that the chips are flaking. I can't tell if the spots are due to a chip or due to the paint delaminating and flaking. This is why I asked the question if anyone has had paint problems. I am touching up. I only mentioned the dealer so that the situation is on Toyota's records so that if, two or three years down the road, there comes a time when it might be determined that there is a paint problem, I am on record early on as to having the problem. If not on record, you have one heck of a time convincing the dealer that you had the problem 'way back when'.

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I am not saying that the chips are flaking. I can't tell if the spots are due to a chip or due to the paint delaminating and flaking. This is why I asked the question if anyone has had paint problems. I am touching up. I only mentioned the dealer so that the situation is on Toyota's records so that if, two or three years down the road, there comes a time when it might be determined that there is a paint problem, I am on record early on as to having the problem. If not on record, you have one heck of a time convincing the dealer that you had the problem 'way back when'.

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don't read anything more than what i posted in my response.
good luck in trying to get toyota to pay for a paint job way into the future....

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Has anyone had, or heard of, a problem with the paint chipping/flaking on the hood of a 2010 LE? I have three spots, about 1/16"-1/8" on my hood that have chipped/flaked and you can see the primer. I don't think that I have been hit by flying debris but that's not to say that it couldn't be the case. I'm thinking of mentioning it to the dealer when I go in for my 20K service just so it is on record should there be some future TSB/recall for a paint problem. Car has been on the road for 18 months.

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It's just cheap paint that gets easily damaged by debris.

Nothing wrong with it, it's what you pay for. I don't think even the self healing Lexus paint does much better.
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pls stay on topic. this is the first warning.
@Glenn8963: please watch what you are saying about others in here.
as for the flaking, its a 2010 then bring it to the dealership and see what they can do. it should be cover under warranty
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Dealer will not do anything and it will no be covered under warranty. I HIGHLY doubt, you'll be able to see little pebbles flying while you're driving. Even if you did see it, your reaction will not be quick enough to avoid it.

Its the same as driving behind a car on a highway and the car in front of you kicks up sand or rocks and smacks your windshield. Do you see it? But rather then hit your windshield, it hits your hood.

Cover it with touch up paint or pay out of your own pocket to get the hood repainted and then spend another $600 for get 3M Clear Bra to protect your hood and bumper.
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really? i know pp that took the car back and got it fix. it also depends on the the situation too. they cant cover everything.
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Dealers will sometimes "fix" it for you out of good will, but that doesn't happen very often. If I'm honest, the paint varies from car to car since it isn't one giant batch of paint they shoot from. Usually when the barrel or whatever runs out, it is remixed again. Also, there isn't any self healing paint for any of the Toyota/Lexus models I am aware of, only Nissan/Infinity have applied that technology and that is only to deal with minor swirls.

To give you an idea, the paint on my Camry was harder than anything I've worked on in the past, including Corvette clear. Paint chips. You try throwing a rock at someones head really hard and seeing if it causes any damage. Same deal
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I'll not be asking the dealer to do any fixes at this time. I am only going to make sure there is something on record (Toyota's computerized record for the car) that the paint was chipped now. There have been many cases with most car companies where somewhere down the road a problem is acknowledged and repairs offered (even out of warranty). Without being previously on record it is hard to convince the company that you had the problem early on and are not just trying to jump on the wagon at the last minute. Just a free insurance policy should there be a future acknowledgment of a problem with the paint.

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Dealers will sometimes "fix" it for you out of good will, but that doesn't happen very often. If I'm honest, the paint varies from car to car since it isn't one giant batch of paint they shoot from. Usually when the barrel or whatever runs out, it is remixed again. Also, there isn't any self healing paint for any of the Toyota/Lexus models I am aware of, only Nissan/Infinity have applied that technology and that is only to deal with minor swirls.

To give you an idea, the paint on my Camry was harder than anything I've worked on in the past, including Corvette clear. Paint chips. You try throwing a rock at someones head really hard and seeing if it causes any damage. Same deal
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Oh yea and Corvettes are like cheap junk made to go fast and around a corner... not a good example of a quality car. They're kind of funny since Jeremy Clarkson tends to like to break ZR1s.

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Most of the cars today will chip very easily due to the so called "GREEN" paint or enviromentally compliant paints..trust me I work at Toyota in Ky and this company is all about going as green as possible...My Mazdaspeed3 that I had was chippped up pretty bad after only two years of owning it. Its not just a Toyota thing!
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Mercedes paint, though getting thinner by the year, tends to be pretty thick.

I know toyota has a bra/mask that covers a small portion of the front of the hood, intended to prevent rock chips. This, however, may pose a problem to lighter color cars because of discoloration, especially after it rains and it just soaks between the paint and the mask. (Underside of mask is soft cotton fabric.)
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I'll not be asking the dealer to do any fixes at this time. I am only going to make sure there is something on record (Toyota's computerized record for the car) that the paint was chipped now. There have been many cases with most car companies where somewhere down the road a problem is acknowledged and repairs offered (even out of warranty). Without being previously on record it is hard to convince the company that you had the problem early on and are not just trying to jump on the wagon at the last minute. Just a free insurance policy should there be a future acknowledgment of a problem with the paint.

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There will not be anything on record. Its paint. Its normal wear and tear from daily driving. Paint has been the same method and color for the past 5 years. The quality of paint is no the same as many years ago whether it be Toyota, Ford, Honda or other manufacturers. If its on the front of the hood, its normal. I have rock chips all over my hood and quarter panel. I even have a couple on my sideview mirror.

If its rust or something where its not normal to have chips or anything, then that's a different story
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Most of the cars today will chip very easily due to the so called "GREEN" paint or environmentally compliant paints..trust me I work at Toyota in Ky and this company is all about going as green as possible...My Mazdaspeed3 that I had was chipped up pretty bad after only two years of owning it. Its not just a Toyota thing!
Very true about companies going green. If people have ever seen West Coast Customs (Street Customs) TV show, there is an episode where they change their whole entire paint to something more eco-friendly. Its more water-based (iirc).
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Oh yea and Corvettes are like cheap junk made to go fast and around a corner... not a good example of a quality car. They're kind of funny since Jeremy Clarkson tends to like to break ZR1s.
Hmm, I'll find some LS's to detail in the coming months to confirm. From what I can tell, the self healing is worth shit since they are still swirled to hell

Not understanding the blurb on Corvette though...
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Mercedes paint, though getting thinner by the year, tends to be pretty thick.

I know toyota has a bra/mask that covers a small portion of the front of the hood, intended to prevent rock chips. This, however, may pose a problem to lighter color cars because of discoloration, especially after it rains and it just soaks between the paint and the mask. (Underside of mask is soft cotton fabric.)
They are moving towards using ceramic clear. Thats why. Its another reason why I hate working on those paints as well. Its another hard clear
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