Cant find upgrades anywhere- even through google

[blueribbon10]

I have a 2010 Camry SE 4cyl that is doggishly slow...i am wondering if anyone knows of companies so sell performance parts for the 4cyl model.
Its an automatic as well

[BlackCamSe]

There is an intake and you could go with the borla axel back exhaust. But neither of these will make any noticable difference. You would need to go forced induction to notice any type of difference.

[gdanaher]

You won't like the answer. If you like the Camry SE style and design, trade it in on a V6. Spin the wheels at every green light. I own a V6. I have one freeway on ramp that I can hit from a dead stop. If not careful it will be running 90, up hill, when I hit the freeway and I have to slow down for merging traffic. All the power and performance you could want, but sorry, you bought the wrong car. There are no performance parts for your vehicle that will do anything you would notice.

[bandit]

When I got my car, I was going to get the i4 for its cheaper price tag and gas saving over the v6. Having test drove both, me and my wife immediately changed our minds and sprung for the v6 even though it was more than we wanted to spend. If we're keeping the car for years, why not?

Same with my sister. She was going to get the 1.8L Matrix S and I told her to test drive the 2.4L. She also immediately changed her mind and got the 2.4L.

So if you want more power for your i4, either install a custom turbo setup (will cost you around $8000) or trade in your car. People who buy cars need to test drive both versions before purchasing. There is no performance upgrade that will make your car anymore powerful. If you even think about buying those chips or setups from eBay or sites that charges you only $20-100 for more horsepower, save yourself the trouble of being ripped off and send me the money. At least you'll know it will be spent wisely.

[Pawel062]

Yep should of gotten the v6. Even turbo ain't easy bc has to be custom from ground up. At least with 07 2az it's easy to adapt a tc turbo kit.

[molson.david]

what about reprogramming ECU? I know for sure it works on other cars,extra HP or MPG depend on setting, camry shouldn't be different.
I've heard about subaru-chevy perfomance shop in DFW area, but they don't do toyotas...

[workerant]

Originally Posted by dcemureviews

So if you want more power for your i4, either install a custom turbo setup (will cost you around $8000) or trade in your car. People who buy cars need to test drive both versions before purchasing. There is no performance upgrade that will make your car anymore powerful. If you even think about buying those chips or setups from eBay or sites that charges you only $20-100 for more horsepower, save yourself the trouble of being ripped off and send me the money. At least you'll know it will be spent wisely.

I both agree and disagree.

Agree that bigger engine means more power. And it seems you hint that bigger engine is better than custom turbo too. And I totally agree that everything else you get to increase the power, the power it add will be insignificant if it add any at all.

But on the other side, the V6 seems to have more issue/problems than the I4. This is something you can't find when doing the test drive. This one have to be done through homework and read through many threads here on TN to get a feel of the issues/troubles the V6 have.

I did consider about the I4 too when I was looking to buy a Camry. I have to admit I did not do enough homework on the V6 engine in that '07 Camry. I was assume that Toyota fixed all the known problems cause the engine is already in the Avalon. But I also couldn't do all the homework because there wasn't much out there for it was a new new gen.

So my personal advice is:

1) Do your homework on engine and any other problems. How often and likely those problems occur. It's not easy but homework is never easy. For me the reliability of the engine is one of the most important. Without the engine you will be stranded on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere and could be without cellphone signal too. With a running car at least you can crawl to the nearest place to get help.

2) Test drive. Feel it for yourself. Bring your whole family, stuff them all in the vehicle and drive it. Kinda creating a worst case when you have to go on a long road trip. Take it on the highway see if it have enough power to pickup to highway traffic with your whole family in the vehicle. I did test this with the Prius and it fall short picking up to highway traffic.

[workerant]

Originally Posted by molson.david

what about reprogramming ECU? I know for sure it works on other cars,extra HP or MPG depend on setting, camry shouldn't be different.
I've heard about subaru-chevy perfomance shop in DFW area, but they don't do toyotas...

Nope, ECU just change when to shift gear. You will almost get the same when you floor the gas paddle HARD.

[molson.david]

Nope, ECU just change when to shift gear. You will almost get the same when you floor the gas paddle HARD.

hmm..as far as I know ecu controls more than shifting. I drove reprogrammed non turbo forester- awd beast.

[ImJustMe55]

Originally Posted by gdanaher

You won't like the answer. If you like the Camry SE style and design, trade it in on a V6. Spin the wheels at every green light. I own a V6. I have one freeway on ramp that I can hit from a dead stop. If not careful it will be running 90, up hill, when I hit the freeway and I have to slow down for merging traffic. All the power and performance you could want, but sorry, you bought the wrong car. There are no performance parts for your vehicle that will do anything you would notice.

+1 The V6 has plenty of power. Trying to add boltons to the i4 might get you 30hp, but to get any real hp out of that engine you have to build it and/or turbo it.

Originally Posted by molson.david

what about reprogramming ECU? I know for sure it works on other cars,extra HP or MPG depend on setting, camry shouldn't be different.
I've heard about subaru-chevy perfomance shop in DFW area, but they don't do toyotas...

I've looked into tuning Toyota's ecu's and no one I've found has cracked Toyota's code. The only program I know of that can manipulate Toyota's ecu's is the program that Toyota has at the dealerships. When they finally released it to public shops they were charging upwards of $2k for a 1yr licence.

[MJZ]

Originally Posted by workerant

I both agree and disagree.

Agree that bigger engine means more power. And it seems you hint that bigger engine is better than custom turbo too. And I totally agree that everything else you get to increase the power, the power it add will be insignificant if it add any at all.

But on the other side, the V6 seems to have more issue/problems than the I4. This is something you can't find when doing the test drive. This one have to be done through homework and read through many threads here on TN to get a feel of the issues/troubles the V6 have.

I did consider about the I4 too when I was looking to buy a Camry. I have to admit I did not do enough homework on the V6 engine in that '07 Camry. I was assume that Toyota fixed all the known problems cause the engine is already in the Avalon. But I also couldn't do all the homework because there wasn't much out there for it was a new new gen.

So my personal advice is:

1) Do your homework on engine and any other problems. How often and likely those problems occur. It's not easy but homework is never easy. For me the reliability of the engine is one of the most important. Without the engine you will be stranded on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere and could be without cellphone signal too. With a running car at least you can crawl to the nearest place to get help.

2) Test drive. Feel it for yourself. Bring your whole family, stuff them all in the vehicle and drive it. Kinda creating a worst case when you have to go on a long road trip. Take it on the highway see if it have enough power to pickup to highway traffic with your whole family in the vehicle. I did test this with the Prius and it fall short picking up to highway traffic.

The 2GR engine is also in:

Avalon
Camry
Highlander
RAV4
Venza
Lexus RX
Lexus ES
Lotus Evora

I'm probably missing a few, but it is a very common engine in the Toyota fleet. It's not that refined though and sounds like crap, it has problems with the water pump, had issues with VVTI oil line and my car vibrates at stop lights.

[workerant]

Originally Posted by MJZ

it has problems with the water pump, had issues with VVTI oil line and my car vibrates at stop lights.

That vibration might be an issue with the misfire on bang 2 and 6 or whatever it was. About $200 to get it fix when that happen on my V6. This misfire is also a common issue. Very disappointing that it's a common engine and yet Toyota won't resolve these common issues.

blueribbon10, slow as in slow to respond when you press on the gas or slow as in slow to pickup the speed because it is under powered?

For those with the V6, if U want the full enjoyment of that V6 power you need to go above 80mph (on the track, throw this in so I won't break the TN rule). Below this speed everything seem to be crippled.

[johannestietze]

Sorry,
not quite correct,
there are tuning parts for the 2AZ FE engine, just search the net, from Cams over Turbos to Blowers,
it's all there!!!

[arabianobsession]

^This thread is talking about the 2AR-FE engine, not the 2AZ-FE.