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Old 02-14-2011, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thinking of Mobile 1 extended drain?

I have an 03 Camry V6 with only 56k on it. Expensive to drive because of premium needed, thus low mileage.

I will going back to outside sales and this car with be drive as much as 22k per year.

Has anyone switched to Mobile 1 and the extended M102 filter?

I have been running Fully Syn, either M1 or Penz Plat for the last few years, but never used anything but stock oil filters and approx 5k oil changes. Due to my new driving demands I want to go from reco'd 5-7k oil change to 10k since M102 says it can handle

Constructive feedback appreciated? Has anyone done this and noticed problems. I know Toys are sludge prone that's why both toys run full syn and I live in Denver where temps can be extreme.
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I would continue to use the 5k change interval, and if you do, a standard oil filter will do fine. I would not go to changes much beyond 7500 miles regardless of what the vendor says.

And why are you using premium gas? No Camry ever made for use in NA anyway has ever needed more than 87 octane.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would continue to use the 5k change interval, and if you do, a standard oil filter will do fine. I would not go to changes much beyond 7500 miles regardless of what the vendor says.

And why are you using premium gas? No Camry ever made for use in NA anyway has ever needed more than 87 octane.
Mine specifically say premium recommended in the manual. If you don't you lose 15-20% horsepower whether at sea level or way up here, it retards the engine automatically. Its very noticeable, and you get slightly less mileage to the gallon.

Is there a computer chip I could buy to compensate or fake it. I have tried regular and its immediately dog slow.

Thanks for the oil FYI.

The car is awesome its just the premium issue that's a PIA.
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I looked through that year manual and it doesn't say it requires premium. I know of quite a few people who run 87 in that vehicle and still get excellent gas mileage.

As long as you're driving mostly highway, you should be able to extend your interval. I would keep an eye on it for awhile when you first try this, and when you change your oil get it analyzed and see how it did.

P.S.: My 2000 Maxima recommends premium. I run regular in it and it runs fine and on our trip to Chicago yesterday from Madison we averaged 26 mpg, excellent considering we got stuck in traffic and the CEL is currently on (MAF malfunction, eats gas more than usual).
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I looked through that year manual and it doesn't say it requires premium. I know of quite a few people who run 87 in that vehicle and still get excellent gas mileage.

As long as you're driving mostly highway, you should be able to extend your interval. I would keep an eye on it for awhile when you first try this, and when you change your oil get it analyzed and see how it did.

P.S.: My 2000 Maxima recommends premium. I run regular in it and it runs fine and on our trip to Chicago yesterday from Madison we averaged 26 mpg, excellent considering we got stuck in traffic and the CEL is currently on (MAF malfunction, eats gas more than usual).
just saw your picture from the car show in chicago, they had way better cars then the DC car show

we didnt even have the LFA, its been the same layout for the last three years
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Take gdanaher's advice above. You can't do any better than that. I have used 5W-30 and now 0W-30 Mobil I and Toyota oil filters in my 04 Camry V6 since new with no problems. In fact,I have not had a problem with Mobil I since I first started using it in about 1978.
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Premium what needed?
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Well I checked my manual and it say 87 required, 91 reco'd for improved performance.

I regret buying it a bit. I will never again buy a car that says prem reco'd. Like I said you put 87 in it and you lose 15-20% acceleration instantly.

Oh well, live and learn.

Still a great car. Only other problem with occasional jerk in tranny that was resolved mostly by ECU factory download.
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Update:
MAF changed out in my Maxima. Remember I said it was recommended to get premium? And I run regular?

Last night pushed her to 70 mph in no time flat..and I was still in 3rd gear! She jumped up to whatever RPMs I wanted, perfect acceleration, perfect running.

Screw premium.
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Mine is a V6 and i only use Regular 87. It's a waste of money going any higher, unless you're taking it on track.
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Well I checked my manual and it say 87 required, 91 reco'd for improved performance.

I regret buying it a bit. I will never again buy a car that says prem reco'd. Like I said you put 87 in it and you lose 15-20% acceleration instantly.

Oh well, live and learn.

Still a great car. Only other problem with occasional jerk in tranny that was resolved mostly by ECU factory download.
There is ZERO performance to be gained running more expensive (by what... a whopping 20 cents?) premium fuel in an engine designed to run 87 octane. Higher octane simply burns slower to reduce knock in higher compression engines. Total waste of money and any performance gain is in the driver's head.
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I believe the ECU "checks" the octane by advancing timing until it detects some knock, then retards the timing and holding it there until the next fillup or something. Anyone have any exact info on this?
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