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Hey guys. From the several other threads I have started you may all know that I own a red 2007 Toyota Camry LE :P. I was thinking of replacing the speakers on it in a few months and I was wondering of any suggestions? Since it is a family car, I do not want subs and an amp YET but I will get that later on. For right now I just want to replace all the speakers. I am looking for something with some nice bass and thats about it. Any suggestions?
front and rears are both 6x9s so you will need 6x9s. Also you will need speaker adapters which i got off ebay or you can make your own as some people do. As for the models i'm not sure what models are out now, but you can browse around on ebay. thats where i usually get off my audio equipment, better then going to retail store.
actually the same guy i bought from like 2yrs ago. they fit perfectly, also don't have to worry about the rear speakers hitting the trunk bar when you open and close it.
I also bought these so can just plug these into the stock speaker clips.
thank you
you were a big help
i never knew i would need speaker adapters and the harness
i will continue shopping for some alpines online, no rush
is there anything else i would need?
your welcome, thats what we are here for. those items just makes the install more simpler. You don't have to go for alpine but i just like alpine personally and you can get them cheap on ebay. Also since your not amping your speakers and just using the stock HU you will not get the full potential of the new speakers. I'm currently just amping my front speakers because the front is more important to me then the back, so i just have the back running of my aftermarket double din. The rear speakers for me is just a rear fill in..
yeahh i have heard alot of good things on Alpine, especially the Type R
I am gonna amp in the future with sub too
but for now, I was thinking of just replacing the speakers
will it sound the same as my stock speakers if I dont run an amp?
im guessing not too much difference
oh ok gotcha. Might just sound clearer thats about it, because its just running power off the stock HU which is prob like 10-15 watts each speaker compared to if you amp them your get the full potential of the speakers like 50 watts each speaker. But if your going to amp them later on mine as well just wait till then to do it all at once?
If you want great sound rather than good sound, you need to get a set of component speakers for the front and put the tweeter and mid as close together as possible. Then disconnect the 2" driver in the dash -- otherwise it sounds really weird. Either 6-1/2 or 6-3/4 inch component sets will work.
I'm not sure how much bass your are after or if your goal is even realistic; however, you cannot get a large amount of bass without some kind of subwoofer. Both full range 6x9 and component speakers generally do not have great response at subwoofer frequencies. I have seen 6" and 6x9 subwoofers, but they are not common and I am not sure how they sound.
If you've done it right, you shouldn't be able to tell that the subwoofer is really there. Those cars that you can hear before you see are running a lot more power than you think. Many of these people have gone to great lengths to get such effects. These include ported enclosures that take up a lot of space and running high power amps that might output 1kW or more.
A single 10" or 12" subwoofer with 300W RMS driving it is a great addition to many sound systems. It is really only audible to about 1m beyond the car with the doors closed at high enough volume that I cannot sit comfortably in the car. At medium listening volume, then it may not be audible outside the car at all. A sealed enclosure for a single 10 takes up about as much space as a couple shoe boxes.
Personaly, I'm partial to Arc Audio, Focal, and Diamond. Alpine is ok, but personally, I'd be after their SPX speakers if I went that route. If you want something less expensive, these Pioneers are pretty good: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...TS-D1720C.html
If you do go component route, you should first find out whether you like silk/textile or metal tweeters. They have very different sound characteristics and you could end up completely hating a set of speakers that otherwise get good reviews. One good example of a very polarizing speaker is MB Quartz QSD line of components.
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Touringcamry is on point with tweeter selection. IMO stay away from metal tweeters. They are really hard to tame. Also the Pioneer set is a good set. However you can have an amazing sounding system without sub woofers. I would say a good four channel amp is needed. The stock head unit can ruin your new speakers in long term.
thank you guys both for your help
made a huge difference
yes this all does seem pricey but your right..its a good investment
like i said im not planning on doing it right away
but umm whats the difference between me buying regular 6x9 speakers and the component ones?..what does the tweeter do?
also, when I am shopping for an amp?..what am I looking for?..what is the difference between the channels? I see there are 2,3,4 channel and mono amplifiers
PS. I am not going to be installing any of this, I am going to have to find a shop or someone i know to install
thank you guys both for your help
made a huge difference
yes this all does seem pricey but your right..its a good investment
like i said im not planning on doing it right away
but umm whats the difference between me buying regular 6x9 speakers and the component ones?..what does the tweeter do?
also, when I am shopping for an amp?..what am I looking for?..what is the difference between the channels? I see there are 2,3,4 channel and mono amplifiers
PS. I am not going to be installing any of this, I am going to have to find a shop or someone i know to install
No Problem man.....
And it truly is a good investment as the stuff i linked above is pure quality! Regular 6x9 speakers are doing the job of both mid bass and high sound from one speaker. Right now stock you have the tweeters in the dash and mids in the doors. You want to stay as similar as you can to stock as far as speaker placement. The tweeter will reproduce treble or high sound. It is dedicated to just producing those sounds. Gives you more of a true sound stage.
Amplifiers come in various channels. A 2 channel amp can power two speakers. For instance it can power two sub woofers or your components. A 3 channel amp is usually used to power a set of speakers and one sub woofer. There are many ways you can wire amps. But for you a good 4 channel will be great to power your fronts and rears. As far as the installer goes make sure you find someone who knows what they are doing.
thank you guys both for your help
made a huge difference
yes this all does seem pricey but your right..its a good investment
like i said im not planning on doing it right away
but umm whats the difference between me buying regular 6x9 speakers and the component ones?..what does the tweeter do?
also, when I am shopping for an amp?..what am I looking for?..what is the difference between the channels? I see there are 2,3,4 channel and mono amplifiers
PS. I am not going to be installing any of this, I am going to have to find a shop or someone i know to install
No Problem man.....
And it truly is a good investment as the stuff i linked above is pure quality! Regular 6x9 speakers are doing the job of both mid bass and high sound from one speaker. Right now stock you have the tweeters in the dash and mids in the doors. You want to stay as similar as you can to stock as far as speaker placement. The tweeter will reproduce treble or high sound. It is dedicated to just producing those sounds. Gives you more of a true sound stage.
Amplifiers come in various channels. A 2 channel amp can power two speakers. For instance it can power two sub woofers or your components. A 3 channel amp is usually used to power a set of speakers and one sub woofer. There are many ways you can wire amps. But for you a good 4 channel will be great to power your fronts and rears. As far as the installer goes make sure you find someone who knows what they are doing.
Touringcamry is on point with tweeter selection. IMO stay away from metal tweeters. They are really hard to tame. Also the Pioneer set is a good set. However you can have an amazing sounding system without sub woofers. I would say a good four channel amp is needed. The stock head unit can ruin your new speakers in long term.
Metal and silk tweeters are a very personal thing. Metal tweeter people like the brightness and silk tweeter people like a smoother sound. IMO, OP should go listen both first before making an opinion.
Coaxial type speakers (2 ways, 3 ways, etc) generally use some capacitors to filter certain frequencies to the tweeters. If given a low frequency signal, like a bass drum, the tweeter could easily be destroyed. It is necessary the filter the signal to the tweeter to prevent this. With high frequency, it is not necessary to filter this out from the mid because it won't harm it. While this is fine and dandy, it is not optimal to sound reproduction because the mid still gets some high freq signal that it cannot reproduce well.
A component set uses a crossover to separate the input signal to the tweeter and the mid. The crossover blocks lows from the tweeter and highs from the mid. The result is much clearer sound.
You really only need components for the front door. The rear just put some coaxial 6x9s.
IMO, the tweeter should be placed as close to the mid as possible with a component set for best imaging. Placing the tweeter higher, such as next to the door mirror can result in some (infrequent) imaging weirdness. The location in the dash is not so great either because it points up at the hard glass window. This can result in harsh sound reflecting off the glass. Placing the tweeter higher up will raise the sound stage, but where to put it can be really personal and may require experimentation.
As far as subs go, the enclosure makes a big difference. Sealed enclosures have a tighter punchier sound -- this is better for music like rock or jazz. Ported enclosures can get louder (with the same amount of power) and have a boomier sound -- better for hip-hop or techno where there is a lot of boomy bass. If you want to rattle some windows and rock the neighborhood, ported is the way to go.
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