5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.
Got myself a 2011 SE V6 in August of 2010..In my months of ownership I have experienced numerous problems with my car which required me to bring it in for service under warranty. Door not opening from the inside, noise from the headliner, steering wheel shake, passenger seatbelt not working, my gauges not working, transmission hesitant to shift (when warmed up) etc etc....So my question is, is there any law (lemon law, or something else) that will allow me to get rid of this Kentucky made crap and get something more reliable and better made. I am really fed up with Toyota's declining quality. A friend of mine has a 98 camry thats made like a tank and here I am with a car that less than a year old and is made like shit. Really disappointed and will not choose Toyota again, as long as its made in the US...
No car is perfect, no car maker is perfect. All cars have problems and you just have to deal with them. Maybe your car is a lemon, so check into the lemon laws. I get you want a quality car.... Thing is... you do. Compared to most of the other crap on the road today.. Toyota is still up there and will out last anything.
My 02 is Japan built so i can't say much about it as it is top quality. But i do have a 2010 XLE V6 which is US built, and the only problem i had with it was a window squeak and that was just the rubber seal, they replaced it and it went away. So i guess you just got one of the bad apples.
Sorry for your annoyances and problems, check your lemon laws and hopefully that will fix your problem, or just trade it in.
Toyota quality has been dropping for years.
My '11 is American built but really has been good.
No rattles or creaks.My only complaints are the door gaps are wide and bottom of passenger front door sticks out a bit past front fender.
I've been looking at many Camry's parked on on the road and the door gaps and trunk lid gap to the bumper cover are all over the place.Some tight,some with more of a gap,even some with wide gaps.Amazing.
Next vehicle I buy I'm going to go over it closely and not because it's a Toyota,take the fit for granted.
Business sliming down in the interests of cost savings? [sarcasm] It couldn't possibly be due to a WORLD WIDE RECESSION... NOW COULD IT?![/sarcasm]
When the wallet gets tight, and you have a product to produce and you can't keep building a car and maintain futures with decreased profits, you have to find alternative ways to build your product. that means you have to use cheaper parts, and you DO get what you pay for.
you paid $25,000 or more for a car that, due to inflation, is only really $17,000, adjusted.
welcome to reality.
you want to buy a $17,000 car? buy one in pre-recession, pre-hyperinflation years. you'll get what you pay for.
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2009 Red Camry XLE V6
Last edited by knightslugger; 04-27-2011 at 10:10 AM.
I agree that the quality has dropped. My V6 '07 had a lot more problems than my i4 '96.
My Camry '96 was like a Monster, ugly and kept going. I love it's problem free. All it need was gas, oil change, and a few car wash. The paint got so bad that I didn't bother with the car wash anymore, just clean the glass.
As my father always said "Don't buy a car that was built on a Friday or a Monday." But in all seriousness, might just be bad luck. I've have a 2011 that was built in Kentucky and haven't had any problems so far (7,000 miles). But I would certainly check on my local lemon laws if I was having the number of problems you are.
Business sliming down in the interests of cost savings? [sarcasm] It couldn't possibly be due to a WORLD WIDE RECESSION... NOW COULD IT?![/sarcasm]
When the wallet gets tight, and you have a product to produce and you can't keep building a car and maintain futures with decreased profits, you have to find alternative ways to build your product. that means you have to use cheaper parts, and you DO get what you pay for.
you paid $25,000 or more for a car that, due to inflation, is only really $17,000, adjusted.
welcome to reality.
you want to buy a $17,000 car? buy one in pre-recession, pre-hyperinflation years. you'll get what you pay for.
Nah,quality is down because Toyota wanted to be #1 and pumped these vehicles out with less quality control and no field testing only computer simulation.
Don't believe me,that's what CEO Akio Toyoda said and he said when he took the reins.He also said he will bring quality back to where it was.
Your theory doesn't fly again.
GM,Hyundai and Ford quality has gone up regardless of your inflation theory.
Nah,quality is down because Toyota wanted to be #1 and pumped these vehicles out with less quality control and no field testing only computer simulation.
Don't believe me,that's what CEO Akio Toyoda said and he said when he took the reins.He also said he will bring quality back to where it was.
Your theory doesn't fly again.
GM,Hyundai and Ford quality has gone up regardless of your inflation theory.
GM and FORD both took Government bailouts, so they can be a little looser in the pocketbook. Less quality control means less expenditure, no field testing ALSO means less R&D expense. cheap plastic parts instead of vinyl foam backed one piece center consoles? cost savings. hell maybe they could pump them out faster to boot.
Look if I had the money i'd be out testing geometry, tire pressures, fuel ratios, Fuel Maps, Ignition Maps, Traction Control levels, shift latency, Chains, gearing, and a whole plethora of other metrics to get my motorcycle racing quality up with setup... fact is i don't so i can't. I CAN however mull over lots of data FOR NOTHING from other users and try to incorporate those into my program and hope for the best.
the Korean economy has actually done pretty well considering...
GM and FORD both took Government bailouts, so they can be a little looser in the pocketbook. Less quality control means less expenditure, no field testing ALSO means less R&D expense. cheap plastic parts instead of vinyl foam backed one piece center consoles? cost savings. hell maybe they could pump them out faster to boot.
Look if I had the money i'd be out testing geometry, tire pressures, fuel ratios, Fuel Maps, Ignition Maps, Traction Control levels, shift latency, Chains, gearing, and a whole plethora of other metrics to get my motorcycle racing quality up with setup... fact is i don't so i can't. I CAN however mull over lots of data FOR NOTHING from other users and try to incorporate those into my program and hope for the best.
the Korean economy has actually done pretty well considering...
K,you've made some good points but I'll stick with Mr Toyoda's comments on why quality went down.
That's cool. At face value i can see why you'd go that direction. I look at such statements as more of a synopsis of events, past, present, and/or future rather than hard facts though. Usually that proves to be the right way to look at a press release about promises.
Something to think about - Georgetown KY produced 371,694 Toyatas in 2010 (Avalon's, Camry's and Venzas). If the plant ran 7/24, 365 days a year they would be rolling a new Toyota out the door every 1.5 MINUTES. Considering, their quality is admirable and is validated by the fact that for many many years the Camry has been the best selling car in the U.S. Most American consumers aren't stupid and vote with their wallets. Mr. Syzman, if your experience is the NEW norm, you won't have to worry about choosing another Toyota because there won't be a Toyota to choose from.
Got myself a 2011 SE V6 in August of 2010..In my months of ownership I have experienced numerous problems with my car which required me to bring it in for service under warranty. Door not opening from the inside, noise from the headliner, steering wheel shake, passenger seatbelt not working, my gauges not working, transmission hesitant to shift (when warmed up) etc etc....So my question is, is there any law (lemon law, or something else) that will allow me to get rid of this Kentucky made crap and get something more reliable and better made. I am really fed up with Toyota's declining quality. A friend of mine has a 98 camry thats made like a tank and here I am with a car that less than a year old and is made like shit. Really disappointed and will not choose Toyota again, as long as its made in the US...
You may have gotten a lemon, you may not have. There are serveral TSB'S
(Toyota Service Bulletins) that are out. There is one for the tranny. One for the moonroof popping/rattle. I had to bring mine in for the unintended acceleration and for the moonroof popping and rattle noise.
Which were fixed by my dlr perfectly otherwise I have had no issues at all.
Try checking out the TSB'S If those are no help to you then go through the lemon law..I hope everything works out for you.
Glenn
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Blacked Out Headlights with MDX D2S Retrofit,TSX-R Clear Lens, 85122+D2S Bulbs, G2 Red Painted Calipers, W.T.Floor Liners, Rosen Navi. GEN6.5 Chrome Wheels, XD Digital 35 watt ballasts, H11 Wire Harness, Megan fstb.
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All it need was gas, oil change, and a few car wash. The paint got so bad that I didn't bother with the car wash anymore, just clean the glass.
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