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90,000 mile service help

Hello,
I recently got my 90k service done at a toyota dealership and they gave me back a list of things I need to do.
Some background info: I have a 2004 Camry XLE V6.
I got the 90k mile inspection done at a toyota dealership and here's the summary. I have always done oil changes at 5k miles.

Failed Tasks/Recommendations
1) Replace cabin/hepa micro filter dirty-$120
2) replace oil pan (engine oil leak)-$400
3) replace all drive belts, timing belts-$500
4) perfrom AC system refresh service-$70
5)Replace water pump (found coolant leak)-$740
6) REplace rack and pinion asembly (power steering fluid leak)-$1600
7) Perform tune-up (sparkplugs)-$300
8) Perform power steering system fluid exchange service-$130
9) Perform brake system fluid exchange (brake fluid dirty)-$140
10) Perform complete fuel/air induction system service (carbon build up on throttle body plate)-$160
11)Replace valve cover gasket (engine oil leak)- $730
Replace automatic transmission pan gasket (found transmission fluid leak)-$250
12) Replace lower control arm (control arm bushings worn/loose)- $1250

My question is the total repairs would cost me $7,000. Are there any that is a must do? Are there any that I can do myself or get away with not doing?
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You can do the cabin filter yourself, no way should it cost you 120 bucks.. they are ripping you off right there. You can buy one for 12 bucks.

Do the timing belt and water pump for sure (at the sametime)

Your spark plugs are good til 120k miles unless there is a major problem with them... If you areleaking oil or any fluids, i'd have all that done too...

But 7000 bucks is steep...go to an independant mechanic and have them check your car out, get a second opinion.


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Here's my thought in red. This is with the 3.0 L 1MZ-FE engine right?

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Hello,
I recently got my 90k service done at a toyota dealership and they gave me back a list of things I need to do.
Some background info: I have a 2004 Camry XLE V6.
I got the 90k mile inspection done at a toyota dealership and here's the summary. I have always done oil changes at 5k miles.

Failed Tasks/Recommendations
1) Replace cabin/hepa micro filter dirty-$120
You can do that at home for $20 at autozone. It's easy and there's a DIY somewhere. Should be the owner's manual too.
2) replace oil pan (engine oil leak)-$400
Too pricy if they are just redoing the oilp pan gasket. Is that for a new oil pan too?
3) replace all drive belts, timing belts-$500
Resonable.
4) perfrom AC system refresh service-$70
Is that complete R-134 exchange? If then, that's okay.
5)Replace water pump (found coolant leak)-$740
Should be done with #3. Should only be the cost of the pump and a bit of labor.
6) REplace rack and pinion asembly (power steering fluid leak)-$1600
How bad is the leak at the rack, I rather live with a little leak then.
7) Perform tune-up (sparkplugs)-$300
Can be done at home or at an outside shop. Be sure to use Denso or NGK.
8) Perform power steering system fluid exchange service-$130
Can be done at home. It should be part of #6 anyway id the rack is replaced.
9) Perform brake system fluid exchange (brake fluid dirty)-$140
Cheaper at other shops.
10) Perform complete fuel/air induction system service (carbon build up on throttle body plate)-$160
Can be done at home with a can of throttle body cleaner
11)Replace valve cover gasket (engine oil leak)- $730
Is that for both valve covers?
Replace automatic transmission pan gasket (found transmission fluid leak)-$250
Reasonable if they replace the ATF too.
12) Replace lower control arm (control arm bushings worn/loose)- $1250
Is that for both control arms with new ball joints? If not, too much.

My question is the total repairs would cost me $7,000. Are there any that is a must do? Are there any that I can do myself or get away with not doing?
Most of these services aren't bad but are expensive and can be done at home or cheaper at another shop. That's the dealership for ya. At that price, you can get another car.

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Thanks for the reply. I flipped the replace cabin filter and the inspect filter around so to replace would be $70. $7k is steep, I don't think I can even sell the car for that much.

They said there are small cracks or something but the oil isn't leaking onto the floor yet.

I'll try looking at a independent mechanic.
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Hey Yuko, Thanks for the reply. I'm completely car illiterate, I cannot even change my own oil so I don't completely understand your comments.

I can try asking the dealership using your comments lol

But the engine is 3.0L V6 DOHC (MFI).
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Oil pans usually don't leak when FIPG sealant is used, probably a leak down from the valve cover gasket.

The power steering system should be flushed when replacing the R&P, idk why they would charge again.

All the engine belts have to be removed in order to get to the water pump, so you shouldn't be charged twice.

Cabin air filter takes 1 minute to replace, you can do that yourself.

$1250 for one control arm, thats insane. It took me 30 minutes to replace mine yesterday.

Transmission pan gasket replacement seems reasonable.

Brake flush is too much.
Spark plugs is too much.

Which valve cover gasket is leaking, front or rear? If its the front and they're charging $730, RUN!

Find an import mechanic shop.

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For future reference, you do have the 1mz-fe engine (just the technical term for the V6 in that year).

As stated you can go to Autozone for the cabin filter, they will probably help you change it too.


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Damn man, you barely hit 90k for a 2004? I have an 07 and I'm at 80K!

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^ my '07 was 60K 2 years ago. I was putting 20K per year so if I still have it now it would be... 124K
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I only have 47000+ on my 04 V6 but it doesn't leak anything. Find an independent shop with certified mechanics. Regards
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I would do somethings myself and go to an independant shop.. that dealer is giving it to you in the fanny !!!

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Hello,
I recently got my 90k service done at a toyota dealership and they gave me back a list of things I need to do.
Some background info: I have a 2004 Camry XLE V6.
I got the 90k mile inspection done at a toyota dealership and here's the summary. I have always done oil changes at 5k miles.

Failed Tasks/Recommendations
1) Replace cabin/hepa micro filter dirty-$120
2) replace oil pan (engine oil leak)-$400
3) replace all drive belts, timing belts-$500
4) perfrom AC system refresh service-$70
5)Replace water pump (found coolant leak)-$740
6) REplace rack and pinion asembly (power steering fluid leak)-$1600
7) Perform tune-up (sparkplugs)-$300
8) Perform power steering system fluid exchange service-$130
9) Perform brake system fluid exchange (brake fluid dirty)-$140
10) Perform complete fuel/air induction system service (carbon build up on throttle body plate)-$160
11)Replace valve cover gasket (engine oil leak)- $730
Replace automatic transmission pan gasket (found transmission fluid leak)-$250
12) Replace lower control arm (control arm bushings worn/loose)- $1250

My question is the total repairs would cost me $7,000. Are there any that is a must do? Are there any that I can do myself or get away with not doing?
I'd question the honesty of the dealership. Some of them will say 'the component leaks' if there's any sign of oil 'in the area', often without a proper diagnosis. Unless you're getting notable driveway spots, or are adding significant amount fluids between changes, I'd definitely get a second and third opinion. The thing that rings alarm bells for me is that they condemned virtually every component with a gasket holding back oil - a case that's extremely unlikely.

About the only item that's 'due or close to it' is the timing belt service, which would normally also include water pump due to the pump location. Plug replacement, as others have said, is not due for a while, and is indicated only if you have CHECK ENGINE light indicating misfires.

Trans fluid change isn't a bad idea, and would include gasket replacement if you do the screen.

The most likely issue is the stealer's desire for money.
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Damn man, you barely hit 90k for a 2004? I have an 07 and I'm at 80K!
lol i have a 2003 and im just barely over 59,700! in fact, im going to the dealer tomorrow to get the 60k service

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That is one of the biggest ripoff estimates I have ever seen.

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lol i have a 2003 and im just barely over 59,700! in fact, im going to the dealer tomorrow to get the 60k service
I have two mileage extremes. My 2001 has only 83,200 miles, but our 2002 Camry has over 166,000 miles.

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