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Old 07-27-2011, 01:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 My H&R drop is uneven... Lower in the rear.

2011 SE I4

So after the issue I had with my speedbumps I decided to swap my Solara Teins with H&R springs to ride a bit higher. The speedbump issue is resolved however I'm having another issue with ride height.

It's been 4 days so far and they have settled a bit but not the full drop specified by H&R. My Hub to fender measurements:

Stock height hub to fender: 15.5" all around (almost exactly 15.5" on all 4 corners)

H&R height hub to fender: Front Driver=14.5", Front Passenger=14.75", Rear 14.25" on both

The H&R rear is perfect and nearly exact to the specified drop (1.3" specified, 1.25" actual). It's the fronts I'm worried about. I'm seeing only a 1" drop on the driver side and a .75" drop on the passenger side . If I could get to the 1.4" specified I think it would be perfect for me.

Can I expect the front to settle even more over time and not the rear? What are the possible issues I could have? I'm pretty sure they were installed properly as they are difficult to mess up and have the height be affected. Everything feels and sounds perfectly normal while driving. The ride quality is great.

Has the front H&R springs been known to take longer to settle then the rear? I don't really want the rear any lower. And yes, I have the H&R set for the 4cyl (54685), not the 6cyl.

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Old 07-27-2011, 07:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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it might take a few days to settle
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Springs do not settle. If they do they're low quality POS's. What usually happens is the rubber bushings in the suspension actually tear a bit as they reset themselves to the lower ride height. Whenever ride height changes you should ALWAYS loosen all bolts going through rubber bushings and torque them to spec with the car at ride height.
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Keep in mind that the rear ride height will change through out the week depending on how much gas you got in your tank
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are you sure you seated the springs correctly? they could be turned a bit causing it to be higher... maybe..??

I wouldn't think H&R would be so different, but my eibachs kinda had the same problem.. the front was wayyy higher than the rear..
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are you sure you seated the springs correctly? they could be turned a bit causing it to be higher... maybe..??

I wouldn't think H&R would be so different, but my eibachs kinda had the same problem.. the front was wayyy higher than the rear..
eibachs are know to sag in the rear
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I believe this is an issue because it's a SE model. I had Tein Camry springs on my '11 LE I4 and the drop was even. I now have the same springs on my '11 SE I4 and the front wheel gap is a little more than the rear.
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are you sure you seated the springs correctly? they could be turned a bit causing it to be higher... maybe..??

I wouldn't think H&R would be so different, but my eibachs kinda had the same problem.. the front was wayyy higher than the rear..

Im sure they are seated correctly. I made sure the end of the coil was butt up against the stopper on the bottom mount.

I will try loostening all the nuts on the upper mounts and reset them when the car is on the ground. When I installed them I torqued it while on the jack stands. We'll see what happens. Seems pretty far off still considering according to H&R the front should be .65" lower then it sits now which is quite a bit.
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With my 2011 camry se v6 i have solara tein springs that dropped 2in all the way around, but since i have a v6 the front is a little lower but when first looking at the car it looks the the rear is sagging, but it just looks that way because the wheel well is smaller in the rear than the front. It does take a couple weeks for it to fully settle so give it some time. Mine took a couple weeks before it was settled all the way.
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Yeah, just give it time to settle.
My coils still aren't settled and it's been almost a week.
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Springs do not settle. If they do they're low quality POS's. What usually happens is the rubber bushings in the suspension actually tear a bit as they reset themselves to the lower ride height. Whenever ride height changes you should ALWAYS loosen all bolts going through rubber bushings and torque them to spec with the car at ride height.
So your saying Swift and BuddyClubRacing springs are pieces of sh1t?

My 10k swift 186mm or whatever springs settled in 4 days after driving like 200miles.

Yours should settle in a couple of days, but I had TRDs (re-labeled Eibachs) and the front was higher than the back.
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Could be normal. I had eibachs on my old ride and the rear always looked lower. It could've been shape of the fender, but this is a common problem with lowering springs.
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Springs do not settle. If they do they're low quality POS's. What usually happens is the rubber bushings in the suspension actually tear a bit as they reset themselves to the lower ride height. Whenever ride height changes you should ALWAYS loosen all bolts going through rubber bushings and torque them to spec with the car at ride height.
So your saying Swift and BuddyClubRacing springs are pieces of sh1t?

My 10k swift 186mm or whatever springs settled in 4 days after driving like 200miles.

Yours should settle in a couple of days, but I had TRDs (re-labeled Eibachs) and the front was higher than the back.
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Just curious if my initial measurements were accurate... I have them writen down so I'm pretty sure but a second/third comfirmation never hurts. I had 15.5" on all 4 corners (measured from center of wheel hub to fender above wheel) on my 2011 SE I4 stock springs. Anyone running stock springs want to measure real quick?

Also here is a pic I took today. Kind of hard to see with the sun and shaddow but it's all I had time for... Doesn't look too bad but it definitely doesn't measure what it should. The fronts should be about .5" lower


On H&R 4 days after install..









For reference... on Solara Teins taken a couple weeks ago:


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So your saying Swift and BuddyClubRacing springs are pieces of sh1t?

My 10k swift 186mm or whatever springs settled in 4 days after driving like 200miles.

Yours should settle in a couple of days, but I had TRDs (re-labeled Eibachs) and the front was higher than the back.
Did you loosen all suspension arm bolts and re-torque at ride height to prevent bushing preload at ride height? If not then your bushings probably tore a bit on the Swift springs, which you preceived as "settling".
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